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sundays line up..

johnnyspex
09:38, Friday 21 April 2017
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Nsue Shots Bielek Grounds


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Thongs replying to johnnyspex
09:39, Friday 21 April 2017
You cant play Mags at noon on a Sunday. He'll still be pissed.
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johnnyspex replying to Thongs
09:40, Friday 21 April 2017
:D
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Atlas replying to johnnyspex
09:53, Friday 21 April 2017
We've only got to install a bit or confidence, make the players feel better about themselves, ditch the 352 and they should revert back to their usual play off chasing selves.


TK
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Frei Gardner Davis Keita
Adams Juke


It can't lose and it won't lose.
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Petebaldwin replying to Atlas
09:55, Friday 21 April 2017
I go with the same but Keiftenbeld in for Gardner
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Magna 1,000,000 replying to Atlas
09:55, Friday 21 April 2017
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The enlightened one
TK
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Frei Gardner Davis Keita
Adams Juke


It can't lose.

Only problem with this one is there isn't a lot of defensive cover at all there...

Theyre our 11 best players, but that is 4 of a back 5 that is shipping in goals like it is in style.
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Magna 1,000,000 replying to Petebaldwin
09:56, Friday 21 April 2017
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Petebaldwin
I go with the same but Keiftenbeld in for Gardner

Youll do for me thumbs up

TK

Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds

Keef

Davies
Frei Keita
Adams

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johnnyspex replying to Atlas
09:58, Friday 21 April 2017
I enjoy a frei up on a Sunday but will him and nsue do the work? Both enjoy getting forward but I'm not so sure. As for Gardner he's on the bench for me he's been a liability so impact sub is all he should get.
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Atlas replying to Magna 1,000,000
09:58, Friday 21 April 2017
But it isn't 352. Which is the main thing.

Nsue was an established RB for Middlesbrough in their promotion season last year. Their regular RB.

Beilik is an upgrade on Morrison.

Grounds and Shotton are in their usual positions.

Surely it's an improvement on the back line at the start of the season?
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Slightly Turbid replying to Atlas
10:23, Friday 21 April 2017
Play the opposition not the occassion.

Address our issues and look at their weaknesses / strengths.

Assuming Hutton starts, Kodjia suspended so Hogan in, Lansbury back in, Taylor not fit that means the following. Vile will be strong in the middle, possibly play three centre mids; weak at both full back positions; have experimented with three at the back but it hasn't worked (where have I seen Bruce do that before?) so expect them to revert to 4 at the back.

Our issues? Two-fold really, lack of organisation, no confidence. Set the team up pwopaly and give them clear instructions - remember we went to Wolves and drew 0-0 in GRs first game directly after losing 8-0 at home to Bournemouth? Same thing isn't it?

Therefore we need to play a solid defensive unit with a solid midfield shield. Play quick on the break and attack the full backs. So we go:

GK - Tommy;
RB - Nsue,
CB - Shotton,
CB - Bielik,
LB - Grounds;
MF - Keif,
MF - Davis,
MF - Gleeson,
RW - Frei,
LW - Keita;
CF - Juke

Sub Options:
DF - Robbo
MF - Gardner, Tesche
RW / LW - Maghoma
CF - Che

So I better explain the Gleeson pick. Haven't seen us since Leeds but have heard negative reports on both Tesche and Gardner. Personally wouldn't trust Gardner in this game at all, aside from his general lack of ability (shooting excepted) he is a red card waiting to happen. Happy to swap Tesche for Gleeson just not heard good things about him (Tesche) of late. Keif and Gleeson know each other well and can both play as two defensive midfielders to protect the defence and nullify / crowd out vile's midfield. Davis to run and run and run, he'll be well up for this. No attacking midfield leaving Jedinak as a spare part. Davis to hound Jedinak to cut out supply to Hourihane and Lansbury.

Keita will rip Hutton apart, likewise Frei aginst whoever makes LB for the vile. Get crosses in to Juke and the opposite winger coming in to support. Balls out from defense up to Juke to hold and lay wide; or out to the FBs to feed the wingers then give them license to take on the full backs.

Where might we lose it? I wish we had a right back - didn't we have two at Christmas? Nsue either stays or has to track back, Keif / Gleeson with clear instructions to sit and cover if Nsue does get forward - no reason for either of these two to cross the half way line on Sunday. If they go 4-4-2 with Hogan and Agbonlawhore we might struggle at the back but will then outnumber the midfield. Jedinak sits in front of Juke nullifying long balls, in which case we go to FBs and long or play through to the centre three and then wide. Juke can then go up and play off their last man.

Good chance vi**a will be on the beach but then they have to play Blackburn at Ewood too and they'll be more up for this than that, so quite important to get a result. Makes a point even more valuable.

Oh and one more thing.

Gerrin to 'em, feck em up!
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Bob Latchford replying to Atlas
10:25, Friday 21 April 2017
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The enlightened one
Beilik is an upgrade on Morrison.

8-)

First name on the teamsheet will be Robbo - absolutely nailed on
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Bluewurst replying to Slightly Turbid
10:26, Friday 21 April 2017
Gleeson protect the defence and "cover"

Have we signed another Gleeson that I have missed?
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Slightly Turbid replying to Bluewurst
10:42, Friday 21 April 2017
Yeah I know!
8-)
As I say can easily sub in Tesche for Gleeson. Need two holding midfielders though. Pick your best two from Gleeson, Tesche and Keif.
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NevBCFC replying to johnnyspex
10:43, Friday 21 April 2017
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Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Gardner
Frei Adams Keita
Juke
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JourneyOn replying to Atlas
10:44, Friday 21 April 2017
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The enlightened one
We've only got to install a bit or confidence, make the players feel better about themselves, ditch the 352 and they should revert back to their usual play off chasing selves.


TK
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Frei Gardner Davis Keita
Adams Juke


It can't lose and it won't lose.

This is what we should have arguably played against Rotherham away and almost certainly against a very poor Burton side. We would have come away with more than one point from a potential six. That Burton side looked there for the taking.

I think given Cotterill is adamantly a 352 man and (5,8) going on record last month saying how much he likes the formation, I think we will still see a three man defence.

I can see Harry playing

.............Tommy
....Bielik Shotton Robbo
NSue Davis Kief Grounds
..........Gardner
.........Juke
.............Adams
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carrsrighthand replying to NevBCFC
10:49, Friday 21 April 2017
Same as Nev :D
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carrsrighthand replying to NevBCFC
10:50, Friday 21 April 2017
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NevBCFC
Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Gardner
Frei Adams Keita
Juke
This definitely!
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JourneyOn replying to NevBCFC
11:16, Friday 21 April 2017
Similar to Nev but I don't think his midfield two would be disciplined enough (Davis being a box to box player as opposed to strictly being a defensive midfielder) to protect the back four so Gardner dropped for Keif/Gleeson.

Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Keif
Frei Adams Keita
Juke


We can only dream; Two things will almost certainly happen, Gardner as our biggest name (and the only player 5,8 even knew)will start as will Robbo.
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Magna 1,000,000 replying to JourneyOn
11:22, Friday 21 April 2017
What About a 2-3-2-2-1

Kuszack

Shotton - Robinson
Nsue ... - Beilik - ... Grounds

Davies - Keef
Frei ......... - ......... Keita

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Blue Turnip replying to carrsrighthand
11:25, Friday 21 April 2017
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NevBCFC
Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Gardner
Frei Adams Keita
Juke
This definitely!

That's the one!
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Magna 1,000,000 replying to Blue Turnip
11:26, Friday 21 April 2017
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NevBCFC
Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Gardner
Frei Adams Keita
Juke
This definitely!

That's the one!

Again, why are we playing a team with 7 attacking players and 4 of the defensive 5 that are shipping in goals for fun?! we are going to be absolutly destroyed by their midfield
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Btownrat replying to Magna 1,000,000
11:34, Friday 21 April 2017
Tommy
Nsue. Beilek. Shotton. Grounds

Davis. Tesche. Keef

Frei. Adams

Juke / don (if fit)

But i wonder if harry can turn keita into a version of bale? Convert him into winger / attacker, not wat we need right now tho as we need to be solid, but a summer with him who knows
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b.casual replying to JourneyOn
11:34, Friday 21 April 2017
Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Keif
Adams Gardner Frei
Juke


Would be my take on it. There's no way Gardner's sitting out of this one, it's his redemption song.
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Ribeye replying to b.casual
13:07, Friday 21 April 2017
I think he'll go

Tommy

Nsue
Shotton
Robinson
Grounds

Davis
Gleeson
Kieftenbeld
Maghoma

Gardner

Juke


Not my choice but thats what i think he'll do.
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Deckchair replying to JourneyOn
13:14, Friday 21 April 2017
Even if he and Cottrill are fans of the 352, he has seen that it hasn't been working and is pragmatic enough to change it.

I think Robbo will play (unfortunately) and he may draft Beilik into the holding role. Gardner will start.

Kuszc

Nsue Shotton Robbo Grounds

Bielik
Mags Gardner Davis Keita

Adams
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HackneyBlue replying to Bob Latchford
14:03, Friday 21 April 2017
If 4 managers in a row think he's a viable option I may have to start questioning it myself.
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wannabee bailey replying to Magna 1,000,000
14:55, Friday 21 April 2017
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NevBCFC
Tommy
Nsue Beilik Shotton Grounds
Davis Gardner
Frei Adams Keita
Juke
This definitely!

That's the one!

Again, why are we playing a team with 7 attacking players and 4 of the defensive 5 that are shipping in goals for fun?! we are going to be absolutly destroyed by their midfield

Villa fans on the radio are all saying that they are weakest in midfield.

He'll want leaders on the pitch so Robbo will play.
Gardner has been in terrible form, but he's about the only one Harry knows, so I expect him to play too.
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jefflynneshair replying to Thongs
15:57, Friday 21 April 2017
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Thongs
You cant play Mags at noon on a Sunday. He'll still be pissed.

Some Uber driver who picked me up last Sunday was waxing lyrical about Jacques. Said he'd driven him from the Wast Hills the week before and what a nice guy he was. The driver is now a Birmingham City supporter solely on the back of this. One week in and we're already shit, I blame him entirely.
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CVBluenose replying to wannabee bailey
16:02, Friday 21 April 2017
Tomas

Robo. Beilik. Shotton Grounds

Teshe Davies

Frie Magoma

Gardener

Juke

Solid back 4 with 2 holding midfield players.
Let the wingers bomb up and down and protect the right & left back.
NO stupid fouls and crosses into our box.
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Spike replying to CVBluenose
16:04, Friday 21 April 2017
Robinson at right-back?

Alright Lee?
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