Editorial: EFL and FFP

almajir.net
14:15, Monday 14 May 2018
With the summer transfer window due to open on Thursday May 17, the topic of Financial Fair Play is still a thorny one online. In the absence of any official information from either the EFL or from the club there is still a question as to where Blues stand with respect to FFP.

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WorcsAzul replying to almajir.net
14:32, Monday 14 May 2018
Credit for coming up with a potential solution Mayor.thumbs up

My concern is that it may be too complex and in itself create the need for more audit/reporting work at cost to hard pressed clubs. As we have seen on here many fans do not give a feck about FFP either so I think the truly interested audience would be small. My solution would be simpler:

(a) The FL agrees to publicise by the of April each season whether a club is either "compliant with" or "in breach of" the FFP rules;
(b) For clubs in breach they also report what punishment(s), sanctions or fines have been imposed on them.
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Blue Machine replying to almajir.net
18:09, Monday 14 May 2018
Seems like a good way of keeping the average fan in the picture.Its becoming more important for fans to be in touch with what’s going on for different reasons.For example,if someone was thinking about buying a season ticket but doesn’t know if there are going to be sanctions or embargo’s,it might affect his/her decision.

Dan,with the window opening on Thursday surely any sanctions,wage caps or embargo’s need to be in place before that point if we are in breach of FFP.
Surely if a club is in breach the EFL are obligated to inform clubs before contract negotiations and recruitment begins.
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zxcv replying to almajir.net
18:29, Monday 14 May 2018
Could it be these clowns are in a mess with this can of worms they have opened, I would think this whole thing is so complex that they are in danger of discrimination, ie not been able to be sure they are treating all clubs equally.
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Bluesince62 replying to almajir.net
19:17, Monday 14 May 2018
Well played Dan, but waaaay too much common sense in there.
Our EFL and EPL will continue to feck it up and offer sound bites and fudges every season just to bat this shit off.
FFP is just another corporate exercise in order to tick boxes and appease groups.
They don't care if it works, they don't mean it to work, they just want to get to retirement age with their snouts still firmly wedged in the trough.
Thanks for keeping us up, Harry.
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bluearmyfaction replying to almajir.net
19:35, Monday 14 May 2018
FFP in principle is a good idea but to make it work they need governing bodies with real teeth. And a total re-thinking of the assets in football. Bring back a proportion of gate-sharing; ban all money coming from outside the sport; ultimately work towards a general overall spending cap per club.

As it is, to some extent, the current FFP has worked; which was the last club to go bust because of overspending? We don't see so many basket cases any more. Where clubs do struggle, it is usually down to toxic ownership, such as Blackpool and Coventry, not because of a lack of money.

The problem is that clubs with the billionaire backing find it far too easy to drive a coach and horses through FFP. In recent years most of the clubs promoted from the Championship have broken it. Vile's accounts are a work of fiction worthy of the Booker Prize to meet FFP but the League hasn't the balls to call them out on it. If demotion were the FFP penalty, then you wouldn't see the billionaires coming into the game.
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turley replying to bluearmyfaction
19:37, Monday 14 May 2018
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FFP in principle is a good idea but to make it work they need governing bodies with real teeth. And a total re-thinking of the assets in football. Bring back a proportion of gate-sharing; ban all money coming from outside the sport; ultimately work towards a general overall spending cap per club.

As it is, to some extent, the current FFP has worked; which was the last club to go bust because of overspending? We don't see so many basket cases any more. Where clubs do struggle, it is usually down to toxic ownership, such as Blackpool and Coventry, not because of a lack of money.

The problem is that clubs with the billionaire backing find it far too easy to drive a coach and horses through FFP. In recent years most of the clubs promoted from the Championship have broken it. Vile's accounts are a work of fiction worthy of the Booker Prize to meet FFP but the League hasn't the balls to call them out on it. If demotion were the FFP penalty, then you wouldn't see the billionaires coming into the game.

...but Villa are being called out. They are one of the 12+championship clubs who will be affected
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greebo joe replying to turley
19:40, Monday 14 May 2018
Let’s hope they don’t get promoted then ;)
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micktheknife replying to almajir.net
19:43, Monday 14 May 2018
I've got two of those HP calculators (complete with soft case and manual) for sale if anyone wants to buy one.
Regards, Mick
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Blue Machine replying to turley
20:02, Monday 14 May 2018
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FFP in principle is a good idea but to make it work they need governing bodies with real teeth. And a total re-thinking of the assets in football. Bring back a proportion of gate-sharing; ban all money coming from outside the sport; ultimately work towards a general overall spending cap per club.

As it is, to some extent, the current FFP has worked; which was the last club to go bust because of overspending? We don't see so many basket cases any more. Where clubs do struggle, it is usually down to toxic ownership, such as Blackpool and Coventry, not because of a lack of money.

The problem is that clubs with the billionaire backing find it far too easy to drive a coach and horses through FFP. In recent years most of the clubs promoted from the Championship have broken it. Vile's accounts are a work of fiction worthy of the Booker Prize to meet FFP but the League hasn't the balls to call them out on it. If demotion were the FFP penalty, then you wouldn't see the billionaires coming into the game.

...but Villa are being called out. They are one of the 12+championship clubs who will be affected
You sound so certain of your facts.

We are on the eve of this summers transfer window opening.
If over half the league was in breach of FFP we would all know by now?.
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KROJim replying to Blue Machine
07:28, Tuesday 15 May 2018
This is the thing. Until anyone is informed officially then it won't be common knowledge or easy to confirm. What Dan is saying though is right. In the interest of clarity and transparency then it should be officially recognised and there should be a way of people seeing what clubs are in what situation. Itll all come out in the wash of course but i will smirk if Villa dont get promoted as they will be finding this a very difficult pre season.
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