13:47, Mon 17 Feb
The tube is brilliant, especially north of the river. If you like doing things London is fantastic, cinema, music, theatre, food, there's something on every day, all day and night if you feel the urge. It gets too expensive if you start having kids. Unusually I'd say it's a place to move back to once the kids have left home, just to have stuff to do.
13:56, Mon 17 Feb
I agree that the tube and all the other transport in London is fantastic. Very cheap too when you think of the size of the place.

The only thing I would change about the tube (apart from the size of the trains, but you can hardly blame the Victorians) would be to connect all of the large terminus NR stations to the same tube line.

Most of them are on the Circle line but it misses out Marylebone, London Bridge, Waterloo, and Fenchurch Street which oddly doesn't even have a tube stop.
14:15, Mon 17 Feb
stevenn'ponzischeme
The way people talk about London is the way I felt about Paris. I'd have drained my bank account for a one-time teleport out of there, and was only there three nights. Awful, awful place.

Paris is a certified shithole though, tbf
DES
14:18, Mon 17 Feb
Roland_Weary
The Tube is so often cited as the worst reason to live in London. But, as per my previous post, I rarely use it.

A tourist’s view of London versus reality is so different.

I absolutely love the tube, always recall our first game in the prem at highbury, stopped to clap our lads off the pitch, looked at the clock five pm, at five thirty I was sat down in the hard rock cafe in Piccadilly just by Park lane, by train that would have been over an hour minimum!
Best people mover system in the world wish we had one similar in Brum!
14:46, Mon 17 Feb
Chris
stevenn'ponzischeme
The way people talk about London is the way I felt about Paris. I'd have drained my bank account for a one-time teleport out of there, and was only there three nights. Awful, awful place.

Paris is a certified shithole though, tbf

Paris is fantastic in parts, a shithole in others.

Just like London, and almost any other major city.
The Belle of St. Trillions
15:14, Mon 17 Feb
On a more positive note about my time in London, I lived in North West London and we used to go and walk around sometimes in Hampstead, Highgate and Belsize Park and it was quite nice. The more "leafy" and quieter areas are really nice but that probably says more about my personality.

We mainly socialised on the weekends in Camden (hell on earth and mostly full of total w*nkers) and Kentish Town (not as bad but still a bit bellendy).

People saying 'well London has great bars, pubs and music venues' are just describing most UK cities. I don't think London has anything Brum, Manchester, Liverpool etc haven't.
Dong Ren Out.
16:18, Mon 17 Feb
LondonBlue
On a more positive note about my time in London, I lived in North West London and we used to go and walk around sometimes in Hampstead, Highgate and Belsize Park and it was quite nice. The more "leafy" and quieter areas are really nice but that probably says more about my personality.

We mainly socialised on the weekends in Camden (hell on earth and mostly full of total w*nkers) and Kentish Town (not as bad but still a bit bellendy).

People saying 'well London has great bars, pubs and music venues' are just describing most UK cities. I don't think London has anything Brum, Manchester, Liverpool etc haven't.

Just has more of them, and gets way more in the way of quality music - one off gig visits from the US
21:29, Mon 17 Feb
Blues75
Overpopulated cesspit sold off to foreign investors, with an imported population to support a disgustingly wealthy few.

Completely disconnected from the vast majority of the UK culturally and politically.

Nice buffet in the O2 at Jimmy's World though.
I'd say you've hit the nail on the head, but theres alot more to my dislike of London than that.

Hate hate hate the place, it baffles me how anyone can be happy there. Concrete, human traffic, pollution, crime, expense, noise.

People who have always lived there dont seem to know theres a world outside of it, they're baffled by open space, green fields and rolling hills (I've lived in devon all my life).
21:43, Mon 17 Feb
Russell Leond
Great thread.

Never lived there, but I'm stunned not one of you lovely people have mentioned the black stuff you get up your nose from spending a single day travelling on the Tube.

Horrendous. Can only imagine long time commuters would get like tar lung or something.

Birmingham for me; London is great for tourism. But to live? No thanks.
I've seen the dissected lungs of someone who lived in london all their life and never smoked. You would guess they were a 30 a day'er. Covered in black (presumably) soot deposits.
21:51, Mon 17 Feb
Bravo Zulu
Blues75
Overpopulated cesspit sold off to foreign investors, with an imported population to support a disgustingly wealthy few.

Completely disconnected from the vast majority of the UK culturally and politically.

Nice buffet in the O2 at Jimmy's World though.
I'd say you've hit the nail on the head, but theres alot more to my dislike of London than that.

Hate hate hate the place, it baffles me how anyone can be happy there. Concrete, human traffic, pollution, crime, expense, noise.

People who have always lived there dont seem to know theres a world outside of it, they're baffled by open space, green fields and rolling hills (I've lived in devon all my life).

This. Tried London when Brum was in the doldrums in 85. All of the above. I worked in Earl’s Court (!) but found even away from the area, nobody wanted to know you unless you had a piece of the action.
My two sisters and an older brother went to work there. Our kid’s now moved to a hamlet in South Wales and loathes ever returning to London, though he was there for thirty years.
My younger sister married a cockney and only now, after her husband died, is she planning to move, to Suffolk.

I’ve known London since I was a kid and always found it an alien, threatening, and until recently, shabby environment. I feel sorry for the inmates, I really do.
DES
23:30, Mon 17 Feb
Bravo Zulu
Russell Leond
Great thread.

Never lived there, but I'm stunned not one of you lovely people have mentioned the black stuff you get up your nose from spending a single day travelling on the Tube.

Horrendous. Can only imagine long time commuters would get like tar lung or something.

Birmingham for me; London is great for tourism. But to live? No thanks.
I've seen the dissected lungs of someone who lived in london all their life and never smoked. You would guess they were a 30 a day'er. Covered in black (presumably) soot deposits.
Well in that case I dread to think what the lungs of a brummie looked like in the fifties and sixties, one birmingham corporation bus spewed out more pollutants every time it pulled awa from a bus stop than a fleet of artics do nowadays!

Kro
00:59, Tue 18 Feb
Go to London! I guarantee you'll either be mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.
02:53, Tue 18 Feb
I had 4 years down there in the early 80s, Bermonsey, Bromley by Bow and the Walworth road all in council flats on rough as hell estates but they were some of the best times of my life. Especially in Bermo where I used Millwall pubs near Surrey Docks and the locals were warm and friendly. Used to go and watch Fisher Athletic in midweek followed by pie and mash at Manzies. Sadly I think it has all been bulldozed now to make way for Surrey Quays and the London I loved has gone. Still great for a couple of nights for the culture and a walk along the south bank
07:45, Tue 18 Feb
Bravo Zulu
Blues75
Overpopulated cesspit sold off to foreign investors, with an imported population to support a disgustingly wealthy few.

Completely disconnected from the vast majority of the UK culturally and politically.

Nice buffet in the O2 at Jimmy's World though.
I'd say you've hit the nail on the head, but theres alot more to my dislike of London than that.

Hate hate hate the place, it baffles me how anyone can be happy there. Concrete, human traffic, pollution, crime, expense, noise.

People who have always lived there dont seem to know theres a world outside of it, they're baffled by open space, green fields and rolling hills (I've lived in devon all my life).

The countryside has certain appeal but don’t you get really bored? Don’t you miss having world class theatre, shops, restaurants, museums, bars, sports venues / facilities, architecture etc on your doorstep?
08:02, Tue 18 Feb
Micky Darrell
King Kong. And now this!!

Things don't seem to last very long do they?

Bulldozed? Wasn't it a new build shopping mall?

If I knew how to use that Google Street view thing I'd have a look.

"New Build" as in the building being nearly 50 years old when it, along with the original Birmingham Shopping Centre were re-developed under the New Street station re-vamp before being renamed Grand Central in 2015. - that one?
23/01/20 Mad: I'll stop moaning now.