15:23, Mon 6 Dec
MacAttack
I'm a season ticket holder and have been most of my life. Recently, there have been complications in my immediate family which take priority over Blues.

I've been to one game this season (Reading) and the matchday experience was rubbish, sitting in GM as opposed to my lower Tilton seat, not enough stewards outside the ground ,hand towels in the toilets and so many more things Dan picked up on in the piece really put me off contemplating going again this season.

I'm beyond my usual "ah well, it's Blues" rhetoric that has seen me through the last 34 years. It's just not the same club right now and it hasn't been since 2012.

If it wasn't for the playing and coaching staff plugging away as well as they can(regardless of their quality I can see they are at least trying), then i'd just look out for the results which is shocking considering how much I love the club and I wonder how many fans feel the same way.

The piece i've read this morning saddens me for many reasons and two things that are seriously wrong are points 10 and 16 on the graph.

A complete disregard for the local area (I wonder what The Blues Trust and or Blues 4 All think)

[www.bcfc.com]

Their mission statement reads "

Our Mission

We the trust want to take a lead role in the club’s success off the field by taking the club closer to the heart of the community. We will use the power and passion of sport and the brand of BCFC, to make a difference to those who face daily challenges and to create a diverse and accessible range of programmes and activities to care for and educate our local people."

What I take from the graph is the club are willing to engage with the local community but are unwilling to invest in it. Ridiculous.

What's the point? What's the actual point of that? Considering the local area is pretty run-down ironically akin to the condition of the stadium, we'd do well if we can invest in the local community and provide people with opportunites.

Talent attraction and retention is the lowest one? What's the point in me giving the club my time and money when the club has no ambition?

The club has me over a barrel because of my blind tribal loyalty I have to this club.

The whole point of football is to win a game of it. To do that you need to be as best equipped as possible. Is any fan realistically happy with constant relegation battles in the championship?

Someone like Ren must have created this graph as he seriously must have thought the playing staff available would gain promotion and that's why it's the lowest option.

When are we actually going to be good if talent attraction and retention is our lowest priority?

I have ran out of patience with saying "Classic Blues/Proper Blues/Only Blues" to every ridiculous thing this club has done and continues to do under this regime.

We get told after every managerial appointment that "things are going to change" or "we've listened and learned" - i'm fed up of their lies.

In Deeney's post match interview he said "with the greatest of respect, it's Millwall not Man United" and I agree. I'm frustrated with seeing a fixture like Millwall/QPR/Hull/Reading away and thinking i'd be happy with a draw there. I know there is an air of entitlement there, I see that but it's more of an admission that our standards have dropped.

It's been a tough decade and i'm hoping what we have in terms of talent and the plans Gardner has for January/next summer are more in line with Deeney's ambitions.

I've ran out ranting at my desk whilst I should be working so i'll just summarise with, yeah Dan, I agree. Shocking. Proper shite.
Good post, many will be similar to you. I also hate not being able to sit in the Tilton. And home games are a miserly, only seeing mates in the pubs gets me through. At 46 I've never felt so disconnected with the Club and its aims and ambitions
Jude Bellingham - "Once a blue, always a blue" “This is my Club, I love the Club to bits. I’d die for this Club”
15:57, Mon 6 Dec
Thank you.

That's exactly what it is for me with the blind tribal loyalty.

Obviously we love the emblem and everything that goes with it. The fun away days and the eventful night games etc. and for all the positives you create with your mates, it's a way of keeping in touch which helps massively but that aside, we just want our club to be doing better.
16:02, Mon 6 Dec
I believe the senior management team (other than Craig Gardner as Technical Director) is Lungi Macebo (COO), Mark Smith (CFO), Ian Dutton (Chief Commercial Officer), Zoe Jones (Club Secretary) and Jessica Poulson (Chief Marketing and Brand Officer). No doubt Dan will correct me if I'm wrong on these. And not sure which of them Dan believes are Ren acolytes...

A lot of us said that when Dong goes, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll be getting any better in.
In effect, all we've lost is a figure of hate and contempt, someone we could direct our anger at. We haven't even got that now.
16:08, Mon 6 Dec
B76bluenose
I believe the senior management team (other than Craig Gardner as Technical Director) is Lungi Macebo (COO), Mark Smith (CFO), Ian Dutton (Chief Commercial Officer), Zoe Jones (Club Secretary) and Jessica Poulson (Chief Marketing and Brand Officer). No doubt Dan will correct me if I'm wrong on these. And not sure which of them Dan believes are Ren acolytes...

Yup. Jess Poulsen is on Maternity Leave right now though.
16:14, Mon 6 Dec
Thanks Dan for the article

When the ground was sold to Achiever Global/ORI I assume some cash must have come into the group.

Do we know where the cash went - the football club or BSH?

As I recall the original sale of the ground to BCSL was an entirely paper transaction whereby BCSL ‘bought’ the stadium from the football club, who in turn lent them the money to do this so no money changed hands.
16:21, Mon 6 Dec
Southernblue
Thanks Dan for the article

When the ground was sold to Achiever Global/ORI I assume some cash must have come into the group.

Do we know where the cash went - the football club or BSH?

As I recall the original sale of the ground to BCSL was an entirely paper transaction whereby BCSL ‘bought’ the stadium from the football club, who in turn lent them the money to do this so no money changed hands.

It didn't go to the football club.
16:36, Mon 6 Dec
Do we actually have any idea what is actually wrong with the construction that caused the problem?
What did the Knights in White satin?
17:13, Mon 6 Dec
El Mayor
Southernblue
Thanks Dan for the article

When the ground was sold to Achiever Global/ORI I assume some cash must have come into the group.

Do we know where the cash went - the football club or BSH?

As I recall the original sale of the ground to BCSL was an entirely paper transaction whereby BCSL ‘bought’ the stadium from the football club, who in turn lent them the money to do this so no money changed hands.

It didn't go to the football club.

So effectively for the football club the proceeds of the sale of the ground will have reduced their debt to BSH (which has no due date attached to it) and replaced it with a regular cash out payment to an external party. I don’t believe this looks like good business as far as the football club is concerned - but perhaps I’m wrong?
17:17, Mon 6 Dec
Nothing this lot do is good business for the Club
Jude Bellingham - "Once a blue, always a blue" “This is my Club, I love the Club to bits. I’d die for this Club”
18:39, Mon 6 Dec
In all my dealings with Shabana Mahmood, I have found her to be entirely useless unlike her predecessor, Clare Short, who was a truly excellent constituency MP. Nevertheless, I wish you all the best.
19:26, Mon 6 Dec
Big Al
In all my dealings with Shabana Mahmood, I have found her to be entirely useless unlike her predecessor, Clare Short, who was a truly excellent constituency MP. Nevertheless, I wish you all the best.

I’m confused with Mr Budgie - St Andrew’s isn’t in Ladywood. Hodge Hill constituency possibly?
19:28, Mon 6 Dec
St Andrews falls within the Ladywood constituency.
19:36, Mon 6 Dec
Nikola Zigic
Los Azules
El Mayor
Los Azules
Great work as ever. I’d expect nothing less.

I’d like to see a piece on what we can do as a fanbase to show we aren’t happy or if there’s any point in doing so and why. Cheers Dan.

That’s really hard, cos I can’t tell people what to do. I’m not a leader or a spokesperson and I don’t want to be caught up organising stuff - this is where other people need to step up.

Ah that’s a shame, but fair enough, I get it. Just wish we could do something that wasn’t riddled in racism.

There's been one racist banner out of dozens. It's not ok but let's not pretend that it's all been race related.

I’m guessing you didn’t see the stuff on Twitter? There’s been atleast 3 times I can remember where the protest page has been racist.

One time they said something down the lines of ‘all Chinese are cowboys’ argued with fans that it was true and tagged the police and loads of anti-racism pages in it to prove it. The whole account was nuked within an hour.
19:44, Mon 6 Dec
Big Al
St Andrews falls within the Ladywood constituency.

Well, I’m stunned. I’ve always thought of Ladywood as the ‘other side’ of the Hagley Road, linking Edgbaston and Jewellery Quarter. You learn something every day 👍. I’d have put money on St Andrew’s being in the Hodge Hill constituency.
00:24, Tue 7 Dec
You will find all of these are Ren acolytes. Ran the club for him. Did what he said for ££££ promotion. Now run the club to protect themselves Edward Cheng and Wenquing Zhao. So many good people got rid of by Ren and them over the years. It is well known in football circles what is happening. people there not fit for purpose and not bothered about Blues and fans. just a shame nobody apart from mayor knows the truth and tries to do something