We absolutely need better next season but it's a massive shame Dykes got injured when he did. We missed him a lot at Wembley.
Liam of BrumAyeayeoppyoppyayeThey are all painfully obvious as we’re out on loan last season or shown not to be up to it
Expect a few others where we upgrade
I’m not saying all of these will leave but I think some will
May
Dykes
Hannson
Wright (in Jan)
Willumson
Leonard
As I don’t think those six will make the 1st 11 more often than not….I do like Leonard though it’s just the project may be accelerating more quickly than his development
May was last years top goal contributor. Goals and assists combined.
He is a natural goal scorer.
He is also a top bloke.
I cannot for the life of me image any reason why people wouldn't want him at the club.
We need players that score. Unless we are about to sign the reincarnation of Jermaine Defoe we should be keeping him at all costs.
See Paul Mullin. 100 goals in 3 seasons or whatever it was but his time at Wrexham has come. Like with him fans are torn between wanting him to play and the realisation that he is a fairly average league one striker that they needed better than.
May was clearly tasked with getting us out of league one. The fact we signed Jay afterwards was a bit unforeseen as Dan has said how late the deal was done.
He played a massive part in that, however his figures are unlikely to transfer into the championship as I think both his physical and technical attributes will make him fairly easy to deal with for championship defenders.
When you aim to improve a team get rid of the non-preforming players first.
Dykes got 1 goal in the league.
Paul Mullin fell out with the manager that's why he only played 5 games last year. However he still scored 1 more goal than Lydon Dykes.
Dykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
ThrillhouseJust out of interest, how many assists did Dykes get?Dykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
BrokerBlueThrillhouseJust out of interest, how many assists did Dykes get?Dykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
1, he got one.
So he apparently he isn't here to score and he isn't assisting either?
Wiki has him listed as a Forward and BCFC.COM has him as a striker so someone probably needs to investigate this. ;)
I suspect we will all be a bit shocked with how ruthless this summer will be.
I think we may see quite an overhaul with a view to a longer term picture this time around.
BrokerBlueThrillhouseJust out of interest, how many assists did Dykes get?Dykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
I didn’t say Dykes was a roaring success. My point is that we’re comparing him to a 6 yard box poacher - judging one against the other goals is a pointless exercise.
ThrillhouseDykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
Yes, football has come a long way from forwards only job being to score. Dykes seemed to be favoured by CD, despite his lack of goals, because of his work rate and tactical discipline - CD clearly thought having him play increased our chance of winning games, even if he was less likely to score.
Similarly, Dykes gets picked ahead of Shankland for Scotland - he's not as much of a goal scorer as him but his all around game is seen as more important for the team.
I think we definitely need one good striker in if we're aiming to challenge for promotion but I wouldn't be upset if Dykes and May are still here next season as 2rd and 4th choice. Depends who ese we sign, given the club's ambition.
Would love Yoko to just be out on loan as I think there is a player there
Leonard with be loaned out
1 striker will go
1 CB will go
Sanderson will go as well
Khela
BPF
ThrillhouseDykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
He's a fecking striker, of course his primary role is to score goals. The fact he doesn't score, doesn't mean that's not his main target.
Thrillhousebluer than bluesRookstaalbiLord knows why, but I really want Dykes to do well. maybe I am looking for a Juke replacement
He’s pants and didn’t do it for QPR in the champs and furthermore he will be well down the pecking order come sos.
Depends what you mean by "didn't do it". He played 156 league games for them. His goal ratio was slightly over 1 in 4. He's not prolific but he does have his qualities.
Dykes is a certain kind of forward - a role he is very competent at. He puts himself about, holds the ball up the top end of the pitch and brings the rest of the attacking unit into the game. It’s no coincidence Jay’s best performances came with Dykes off him.
But, some people see a striker, they see the hit rate and they see a slightly bumbly frame and that’s it. He was doomed the second he joined.
Dykes with all the goodwill in the world is pretty mediocre at all he does well .We will need a goal contribution as well in the championship , for me he'd be on the TO GO list if we have the funds to bring someone else in .
El Hijo de QuarkioThrillhouseDykes’ primary role isn’t to score goals. May’s is. They’re completely different profiles.
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
(I would keep May around, just to be clear).
He's a fecking striker, of course his primary role is to score goals. The fact he doesn't score, doesn't mean that's not his main target.
I see the argument that a striker is a *striker*, sure, but my perspective is that everytime Dykes has been selected it has been to serve the system, not as a Hail Mary for goals. These days as much goal threat is as expected from your wide forwards as the starting #9. What’s expected in those roles is changing. I always say Emile Heskey played in the wrong era, as his strengths weren’t necessarily appreciated 20 years ago, whereas now he’d be a properly good focal point to bring the attacking until together.
To be fair we can argue about that definition all day long, my main point in this was arguing that comparing Dykes and May is silly as they’re extremely different types of forward, asked to do different things in the system. Surely that’s not a controversial take?
It's not a controversial take , however there have always been teams with a target man/focal man up front who will add the occasional goal .You point out Emile Heskey for us as an example.These teams are usually at the bottom of the league scrapping for points.
There is nothing new or modern about the role Dykes plays , he is certainly not as good at it as Heskey.
You could Bobby firmino as an example of a forward not in the team to score necessarily but he made Liverpool tick and was very successful at the highest level.