mad
17:02, Fri 20 Jun
C'mon, town really isn't smashing it you have to be truthful, except perhaps of a Saturday when all the gaggles of hen do's turn out. Town compared to other town centre's lacks charm. Guinness and crap fizz eff me that slop has always been top selling since the 80's nobody is specifically coming into Brum for that shite
17:07, Fri 20 Jun
mad
mad
C'mon, town really isn't smashing it you have to be truthful, except perhaps of a Saturday when all the gaggles of hen do's turn out. Town compared to other town centre's lacks charm. Guinness and crap fizz eff me that slop has always been top selling since the 80's nobody is specifically coming into Brum for that shite

No, tourists come to Birmingham for a buzz and variety, they have that aplenty, well what tourists want anyway.

What keeps pubs afloat is the people who come in on a Monday-Thursday, the weekends are profit.
Paul Scholes could find Madeline Mccann with a pass
mad
17:12, Fri 20 Jun
If you say so
17:20, Fri 20 Jun
The city centre is a shit hole. There's too many party groups bouncing between bottomless brunches and shit cocktail bars. It's no wonder Brummies don't want go to town for a night out.
17:22, Fri 20 Jun
Sheriff
mad
Other cities have the balance far better than Brum. Brum was just about getting there circa 2017. Long way back for that city now

What balance?

People want what they want and will go where they want. Suburban pubs are smashing it, loads of concept bars are smashing it, people are still spending they are just more choosy as to how as there are so many options in terms of experience.

Agree. You know where are I live and the five or 6 pubs within a few hundred metres of each other are always rammed. Each doing and offering something different
17:29, Fri 20 Jun
mad
He's proven he knows more than you. You're talking about going in to pubs early on a Tuesday afternoon and being surprised there isn't anyone in them.

Do you ever sense check your posts and think, nah, I'm being daft here?
17:40, Fri 20 Jun
We like the Old Joint Stock, O.C's and a wander around Digbeth. In the 80's pubs were in for a while then the in crowd moved on. I remember the Paramount being the place to be until it wasn't. I am meeting a mate in the Old Crown later for a pub crawl around Digbeth, we have tried lots of new trendy gin bars etc over the last few years but good beer is always a prerequisite
mad
17:46, Fri 20 Jun
Burlington Bertie
Do you ever sense check your posts and think, nah, I'm being daft here?
You completely missed the point which was a couple of years ago even post Covid a Tuesday mid afternoon visit to the Colmore you'd never find it that empty but now it as often as not is. That was the point that even the best pub in Brum is struggling to an extent at certain times of the day winter, spring and summer not just your half decent ale pubs let alone your run of the mill shitty Viler pubs. Wetherspoons always full mind

What the feck has he proved either btw? That pile it high and sell it dirt cheap places clean up in the overall $$$$ for grog stakes in the shit hole that the UK has become? As if that was some pearl of wisdom or some new thang? The truth is only known by guttersnipes and Legal tbf
17:58, Fri 20 Jun
Legal_Bluenose
The city centre is a shit hole. There's too many party groups bouncing between bottomless brunches and shit cocktail bars. It's no wonder Brummies don't want go to town for a night out.

I mean I am with you regarding weekends, a couple of pubs I would visit perhaps but only because I was there, nothing draws me in because I am not that type of customer.

That bottomless brunch crowd is a god send for loads of city centre places but also their target market. They survive on that, places like the Anchor et al need a crowd that no longer exist.

Places that know their market, deliver and understand will always do well, thinking you have a right to have trade is a nonsense that many operators fall into.

Out of the hundreds of places that I have worked with, the large majority are still going because they know what their customers want and evolve. If you stand still and have an offering that might have been de rigeur 2 years ago, you will fail, and rightly so.
Paul Scholes could find Madeline Mccann with a pass
mad
17:58, Fri 20 Jun
Sheriff
What keeps pubs afloat is the people who come in on a Monday-Thursday, the weekends are profit.
The chancer from Stourbridge who opened that place in Great Western Arcade 5 years ago had a business plan (sic) that went Mon-Thurs to keep pub afloat and then the weekends we raise $$$ for charidee... Wonder how that worked out?
18:01, Fri 20 Jun
mad
Sheriff
What keeps pubs afloat is the people who come in on a Monday-Thursday, the weekends are profit.
The chancer from Stourbridge who opened that place in Great Western Arcade 5 years ago had a business plan (sic) that went Mon-Thurs to keep pub afloat and then the weekends we raise $$$ for charidee... Wonder how that worked out?

The Good Intent?

Still going isn’t it? Was busy when I walked past last month.
18:02, Fri 20 Jun
mad
mad
Sheriff
What keeps pubs afloat is the people who come in on a Monday-Thursday, the weekends are profit.
The chancer from Stourbridge who opened that place in Great Western Arcade 5 years ago had a business plan (sic) that went Mon-Thurs to keep pub afloat and then the weekends we raise $$$ for charidee... Wonder how that worked out?

You mean the completely egregious bad and anomalous operator?

You base your judgement on that and I will base mine on the literal hundreds of places that I have worked with.
Paul Scholes could find Madeline Mccann with a pass
mad
18:09, Fri 20 Jun
These hundreds of places are they all pubs in Birmingham city centre by any chance?
18:38, Fri 20 Jun
mad
mad
These hundreds of places are they all pubs in Birmingham city centre by any chance?

No but a fair few are city centre. And restaurants, and mixed.

You? What's your experience and reference?

Come on, mouth.
Paul Scholes could find Madeline Mccann with a pass
18:44, Fri 20 Jun
Rasputin
El Mayor
Was inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.

Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there


With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
People knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are over