I'd take what you're saying a bit more seriously if one of your pearls of wisdom wasn't "keep an eye out for yet another crappy Irish pub on Broad Street"
gerry1875RasputinPeople knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are overEl MayorWas inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.
Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there
With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
Wetherspoons are one of the best pub companies are going, understand their market, offer what their customers want and understand the industry.
They are reviled, stupidly, by so many "snobs".
Without spoons, the level of social isolation in this country would be through the roof.
madI'd take what you're saying a bit more seriously if one of your pearls of wisdom wasn't "keep an eye out for yet another crappy Irish pub on Broad Street"
When did I say it was a "crappy Irish pub"?
It's an enormous investment, on a city centre area of Birmingham, by a successful independent Birmingham operator. He knows the market, the demands and most importantly, the risks for him.
You mourn warm brown beer in dark dinghy pubs all you want, there's a lot of positives in Birmingham.
Maybe it's you that's the problem?
I think they will be fine.
What's your knowledge on the industry again? You didn't answer before.
I'll give you an example of how good places attract customers, tourists even. I saw this post from Hennessey's earlier on Facebook (find it yourself as I can't copy and paste it), because they are known for sports and beers etc, they get tourists in, it's 3 Brazlian lads, all Flamengo fans it seems, finding what they were after and going.
People want what they want.
The new Irish Bar on Broad St (that's a secret by the way - opening October), will make so much money it'll repay the huge outlay within 2 years.
So again, you've no effing clue and shit places will die and good ones will survive, lots will have problems for loads of reasons.
Your thinking is far too simplistic. Very often shit places survive and good places die because of they way they are financed. And there are countless examples of this happening in Brum. Pint Shop, Bundobust, North Bar all excellent places but Brum just wasn't the right fit for them because Brum just isn't Manchester or even Leeds and/or because the rates charged and poor quality or poorly located premises offered and a hangover from the pub bombings (just kidding 😉 although you never know it still hampers the city core stock of premises available) and now COVID of course
madYour thinking is far too simplistic. Very often shit places survive and good places die because of they way they are financed
I have literally no idea what this means.
Explain please.
If a pub dies it’s because it’s not good. Same for any business
If all or most of the decent pubs in a city centre die is that because they were all shit?
SheriffI was in a viler pub earlier today. The Windsor truly dreadful place. Which will likely survive as all the gems are forced outI have literally no idea what this means.
Explain please.
madIf all or most of the decent pubs in a city centre die is that because they were all shit?
No it's because they can't make a business of what they think their pub should be.
Now answer my questions.
TandyIf a pub dies it’s because it’s not good. Same for any business
I'll take that a step back and say some good pubs do go under but it's not because they are good. There are many reasons that "good" pubs go under too.
Not what Mad is saying however. Mad infers that pubs he likes should be busy but Mad is one person out of a lot of people, a fork in a world of spoons as it were.
Sad that if true.
Every regular in there knew the words to “Halfway to Paradise” by Billy Fury. Even in the bogs where the acoustics were Town Hall semblance.
How many pubs can make that claim?
The Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
Legal_BluenoseThe Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
Yep it's this in a nutshell, they've had great rent for years, a bold and obvious message of what they do and a loyal base who drink carling or worthingtons day in day out and pay the bills. When a tourist pops in by mistake because it's in the city centre they rub their hands and think all profit.
They survive on being what they are to the people who want it.