Not sure I am. We just went off on a tangent because one fella reasonably put it that Brum's ale scene isn't as vibrant as some of its peer cities because they reckon the city centre is too big when it patently isn't for a city of 1.1/1.2 million. Brum has always had strong suburban retail options compared to its peer cities - Sutton, Solihull primarily. Brum like Chicago maybe best experienced when you get out of the Loop into the neighbourhoods and that isn't necessarily a bad thing about Brum just that it's different structurally to Manc/Brizzle/Scouseland with their vibrant pub scenes
Anyone genuinely claiming Brum doesn't have a 'vibrant pub scene' has never been there.
Not sure I am. We just went off on a tangent because one fella reasonably put it that Brum's ale scene isn't as vibrant as some of its peer cities
That was you you daft bastard
madNot sure I am. We just went off on a tangent because one fella reasonably put it that Brum's ale scene isn't as vibrant as some of its peer cities because they reckon the city centre is too big when it patently isn't for a city of 1.1/1.2 million. Brum has always had strong suburban retail options compared to its peer cities - Sutton, Solihull primarily. Brum like Chicago maybe best experienced when you get out of the Loop into the neighbourhoods and that isn't necessarily a bad thing about Brum just that it's different structurally to Manc/Brizzle/Scouseland with their vibrant pub scenes
People will buy what they want
I love going into Birmingham and there's absolutely loads of good places to have a drink
Legal_BluenoseThe Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
That's one place that's due a refurb especially when M&B have refurbed a few of their other places recently including the Old Contemptables
Not sure I am. We just went off on a tangent because one fella reasonably put it that Brum's ale scene isn't as vibrant as some of its peer cities because they reckon the city centre is too big when it patently isn't for a city of 1.1/1.2 million. Brum has always had strong suburban retail options compared to its peer cities - Sutton, Solihull primarily. Brum like Chicago maybe best experienced when you get out of the Loop into the neighbourhoods and that isn't necessarily a bad thing about Brum just that it's different structurally to Manc/Brizzle/Scouseland with their vibrant pub scenes
I did the Stirchley 'pub' crawl on Saturday, which I did enjoy but it seems odd to me drinking in Warehouses and
converted Shops. The only real Pub I went to was the British Oak which was very 'lively', in fact like sitting on
edge of a volcano, not recommended.
KimberLegal_BluenoseThe Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
That's one place that's due a refurb especially when M&B have refurbed a few of their other places recently including the Old Contemptables
The Old Contemptibles where you need to take out a mortgage to have a drink .I was in there a couple of weeks ago , two pints of ( crap) Guinness £14.40 .
Sheriffgerry1875RasputinPeople knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are overEl MayorWas inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.
Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there
With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
Wetherspoons are one of the best pub companies are going, understand their market, offer what their customers want and understand the industry.
They are reviled, stupidly, by so many "snobs".
Without spoons, the level of social isolation in this country would be through the roof.
Yep the revulsion for anything 'spoons i find strange .They are well kept , clean, often in unusual/interesting buildings .If you stick to beer they serve a decent pint .You can always get an selection of ales/stout for £2.90-£3.40 .Or you could walk up the street and buy the same pint for £6.50.
Legal_BluenoseThe Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
The Windsor where the soul goes to die .A terrible dreary pub , tragic beer,it's like being time warped back to the 90's.
ForeverFrancisSheriffgerry1875RasputinPeople knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are overEl MayorWas inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.
Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there
With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
Wetherspoons are one of the best pub companies are going, understand their market, offer what their customers want and understand the industry.
They are reviled, stupidly, by so many "snobs".
Without spoons, the level of social isolation in this country would be through the roof.
Yep the revulsion for anything 'spoons i find strange .They are well kept , clean, often in unusual/interesting buildings .If you stick to beer they serve a decent pint .You can always get an selection of ales/stout for £2.90-£3.40 .Or you could walk up the street and buy the same pint for £6.50.
Totally agree, I like then for the reasons you've mentioned. My local one is good, and I always think that people who slag them off are trying to come across as posh and sophisticated, but really just come across as someone who can't recognise a good deal.
ForeverFrancisSheriffgerry1875RasputinPeople knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are overEl MayorWas inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.
Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there
With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
Wetherspoons are one of the best pub companies are going, understand their market, offer what their customers want and understand the industry.
They are reviled, stupidly, by so many "snobs".
Without spoons, the level of social isolation in this country would be through the roof.
Yep the revulsion for anything 'spoons i find strange .They are well kept , clean, often in unusual/interesting buildings .If you stick to beer they serve a decent pint .You can always get an selection of ales/stout for £2.90-£3.40 .Or you could walk up the street and buy the same pint for £6.50.
I can’t stand Tim Martin but Spoons as pubs are totally fine. I think their food offering has gone downhill a bit but I think that’s to do with cost of living stuff.
KimberLegal_BluenoseThe Windsor was shit when it opened, but it doesn't care that it's shit and neither do its customers. So it's remained shit in my eyes, but I'm not it's target customer.
Shit is subjective.
That's one place that's due a refurb especially when M&B have refurbed a few of their other places recently including the Old Contemptables
The Old Contemptibles where you need to take out a mortgage to have a drink .I was in there a couple of weeks ago , two pints of ( crap) Guinness £14.40 .
Never got the love for the OCs. Shit layout, extortionate and mediocre beer and food, largely terrible service.
Almost all the other Nicholson pubs in town are better, bar The Shakespeare (New St one) which is just horrid.
Yeah nothing wrong with a spoons, well priced and a good variety of beer, reasonable food for the price and they’re usually well kept premises
ForeverFrancisSheriffgerry1875RasputinPeople knock the wetherspoons pubs but at least they keep it cheap, had some lovely managers specials in wetherspoons and a few beers for less than £20, the days of spending more than £50 on a night out for me are overEl MayorWas inevitable sadly; Brexit killed its USP of all the foreign beers in bottles and Covid killed its passing trade.
Think we’ll see more go to the wall this summer too; it’s rough out there
With the economic climate as it is, people are either picking and choosing or outright stopping spending instead of going out and dropping £100+ on a meal/night out. Going to get worse for the city centre I would think.
Wetherspoons are one of the best pub companies are going, understand their market, offer what their customers want and understand the industry.
They are reviled, stupidly, by so many "snobs".
Without spoons, the level of social isolation in this country would be through the roof.
Yep the revulsion for anything 'spoons i find strange .They are well kept , clean, often in unusual/interesting buildings .If you stick to beer they serve a decent pint .You can always get an selection of ales/stout for £2.90-£3.40 .Or you could walk up the street and buy the same pint for £6.50.
I had a lovely pint of Doom Bar for 99p in 'spoons Bottle Of Sack last week, in Sutton town centre. Well in fact I had 2, for the price of half a pint of the cheapest anything, at every other boozer in the town. No complaints here.