Bluesince62 F.E.A.Rab C NesbittI wouldn’t say Vardy revolutionised the role of a lone striker. I’d say lots of his style he took from watching Torres for one
Good observation there Rab, never thought of that but Torres was for a while, the perfect lone forward.
Agreed, very good observation.
HughBlue2Maybe you’re right. There’s similarities between Cardy, Ian Wright and at a lower level Lee Hughes in work rate and pressure they put on. And all played non league football before going pro. Coincidence, I dunnoVardy and Torres have similarities for sure. But Vardy changed the role, he made the press much more aggressive.
Bluesince62 F.E.A.Rab C NesbittI wouldn’t say Vardy revolutionised the role of a lone striker. I’d say lots of his style he took from watching Torres for one
Good observation there Rab, never thought of that but Torres was for a while, the perfect lone forward.
Personally I thought Cameron Jerome revolutionised it.
Good shout. That poor bastard did have no option but to chase lost causes and listen to bell ends slating him rather than the managers tactics
Decent loan forwards ie Drogba, Anelka, Torres were able to to have multi function skills like hold the ball up, go past defenders and take a shot on, jay needs to improve on them 2 attributes if he wants to progress in that role.
Rab C NesbittGood shout. That poor bastard did have no option but to chase lost causes and listen to bell ends slating him rather than the managers tactics
The Birmingham City slogan should be
‘Go on Cameron, go onnn…unlucky Cameron’
Still a legend.
HughBlue2There is no doubting Stansfield is good. And that he runs and runs and is a nightmare for defenders to play against. Out of interest, say Stanno scores 20+ this season and we don’t go up, what bid would you accept for him? I think £30 mil plus sell on.
I think his ceiling is lower half premier league in which case surely he would want to stay if he could as at some point in the not too distant future we’ll be back in the prem.
It's mad really. If Stanno had stretched and got number 3 for us yesterday we (and the rest of the country) would have been lauding him as not only a clinical finisher but also purring about his involvement in a least 2 or 3 goals in the Euros from sheer tenacity. Just because he missed probably the one clear cut opportunity he had all tournament everything seems unncessarily negative despite being integral in winning the tournament.
Would every single championship team want him in their starting line up. Absolutely. Will opposition fans fear him when his name is on the team sheet, yes. The only debate is who else we need to bring in alongside or to compliment him.
Yeah not sure if having had Jude for a season means people think our best player should be a genuine world beater. Stanfield is an absolute gem, and he appears to love it here.
Stanno has scored 36 goals in 91 games for the club.
And those within the game, and who report on the game, recognise that he was a pivotal part of the England squad that won the tournament.
And some fans think he isn't quite good enough for us?
brierleyblueStanno has scored 36 goals in 91 games for the club.
And those within the game, and who report on the game, recognise that he was a pivotal part of the England squad that won the tournament.
And some fans think he isn't quite good enough for us?
Shows you can’t understand the subtleties of an argument.
No one is questioning his ability, no one has is questioning his goal scoring record. I literally said how important he was in England winning it.
My question was on his position. Is he a number 9, I say not really, some others say no, some others say yes.
Where else is his best position in a front four because technically he can play all four roles. Is it on the right well yesterday showed defensively speaking maybe not.
I personally think it’s on the left but then I feel you then deprive the team of a proper left winger if you chose to play him there.
He’s a striker and we should be doing everything to help him succeed. I think the manager might tweak the formation to accommodate both him and Doyle should he sign.
I’m expecting us to change to 433 with Stanno playing a narrow forward position next to a big number 9 and Doyle to play an advance role in front of Paik and Iwata.
Doyle is a holding midfielder who is not dis-similar from Iwata or Paik, he has elements of both. He is being brought in to add competition to those 2 not to become the 3rd of a midfield 3. The only logical people to put further forward are either Leonard (his natural position) or Willumsson. If Davies doesn’t rate those 2 then he needs to bring in someone else.
I agree with the whole sentiment of Stanno though. No one is questioning his ability, only the best tactical role for him. People need to stop getting so hurt or taking things personally when things get literally just questioned.
It’s clear to see Stansfield could benefit from having someone to play off either as a target man or a more advanced number 10 role than the one used last season. I would also add that Davies’ system nullified some of Stanno’s qualities that had gotten goals in the Champ. That is why his open play goals were down. His strengths are running in behind and stretching defences, hard to do that in a team that was having 70% of the ball and playing on the floor in mostly short passing against teams always trying to park the bus.
People saying Stanno is hated or even that people in this thread are questioning his ability are either sensationalist, incapable of reading properly or both.
It’s tactics to get the best out of him being debated not whether as a player he is good or not.
Anyway rant over, suns out, hopefully the club announce some fun stuff this week.
Far too passive/aggressive.
Reported.