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Snoop

IanT

Snoop

IanT

newblue

IanT

newblue

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

Charcy

Mikejk

The club can do a bit of investigating and see who’s bought to sell. Could check the names, addresses etc of the people who have listed on eBay and cross reference it with their account details and order

I’ve seen 60 go up on eBay so it’s whether it’s time effective for the club to do

People will resell, it’s not illegal.

What do you want them to do?

Stop being fannyz?

They can do what the eff they like with the shirts once they own them.

🙄 you condone racketeering then? You of all people.

Except that it isn't racketeering.

It's as good as.

It isn't. It really isn't.

No-one is being forced to pay any more than they have to. No-one has to have this shirt.

No-one.

Of course they don’t. If you don’t see people exploiting others in this sort of thing - in this case Blues fans making money out of other blues fans - I don’t see what you are looking at. It’s pretty
shitty behaviour and people exploiting shortages as always been looked on unfavourably. Being called a ‘spiv’ isn’t a compliment.

Christ.

Of course they're trying to exploit others!

As I said, this isn't new news.

But, who the feck is paying £500+? This is a football shirt we're talking about, not some meat in the era of rationing.

No-one has to have it.

You just don’t see it. Spivs in rationing tended to sell luxuries, nobody ‘needed’ it. I’m surprised you think being a spiv is ok - genuinely. It’s hanging and drawing, but it’s shitty behaviour.

The point is I *DO* see it.

It may well be shitty behaviour, but it's human behaviour.

My point is that it's pretty inevitable....and the club won't really mind.

I think you and some others are taking a very narrow commerce theory of it.

Which, in my opinion, ignores the broader picture of the clue trying to build a better relationship with fans and a positive atmosphere around the club - which presumably is why they have said there is an additional order now put in. An admission in effect that they f'ed up and had intended to meet demand, not leave people pissed off at missing out.

Yep, I get that, and I totally understand why people are pissed off......but, the point was about some people putting them on eBay for £500+.

No-one is being forced into paying those prices regardless of any further supply.

No, but I think the club should definitely mind - it got it wrong and hasn't handled the fall out as well as it should of either. Which has driven people trying to flog the shirts for £500+ on ebay and fans being pissed off about how the club has gone about this.

I think the club will just be chuffed that it's been so successful. Yes, they'll want to improve processes for the future, but revenues are what really matter.

IanT

newblue

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

Charcy

Mikejk

The club can do a bit of investigating and see who’s bought to sell. Could check the names, addresses etc of the people who have listed on eBay and cross reference it with their account details and order

I’ve seen 60 go up on eBay so it’s whether it’s time effective for the club to do

People will resell, it’s not illegal.

What do you want them to do?

Stop being fannyz?

They can do what the eff they like with the shirts once they own them.

🙄 you condone racketeering then? You of all people.

Except that it isn't racketeering.

It's as good as.

It isn't. It really isn't.

No-one is being forced to pay any more than they have to. No-one has to have this shirt.

No-one.

Of course they don’t. If you don’t see people exploiting others in this sort of thing - in this case Blues fans making money out of other blues fans - I don’t see what you are looking at. It’s pretty
shitty behaviour and people exploiting shortages as always been looked on unfavourably. Being called a ‘spiv’ isn’t a compliment.

Christ.

Of course they're trying to exploit others!

As I said, this isn't new news.

But, who the feck is paying £500+? This is a football shirt we're talking about, not some meat in the era of rationing.

No-one has to have it.

Nobody is claiming they have to have it either.

People are pointing out that it's shitty behaviour by other fans, that's all.

The club won't give a shit as you say, this has all been a huge success for them.

Snoop

IanT

Snoop

IanT

newblue

IanT

newblue

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

Charcy

Mikejk

The club can do a bit of investigating and see who’s bought to sell. Could check the names, addresses etc of the people who have listed on eBay and cross reference it with their account details and order

I’ve seen 60 go up on eBay so it’s whether it’s time effective for the club to do

People will resell, it’s not illegal.

What do you want them to do?

Stop being fannyz?

They can do what the eff they like with the shirts once they own them.

🙄 you condone racketeering then? You of all people.

Except that it isn't racketeering.

It's as good as.

It isn't. It really isn't.

No-one is being forced to pay any more than they have to. No-one has to have this shirt.

No-one.

Of course they don’t. If you don’t see people exploiting others in this sort of thing - in this case Blues fans making money out of other blues fans - I don’t see what you are looking at. It’s pretty
shitty behaviour and people exploiting shortages as always been looked on unfavourably. Being called a ‘spiv’ isn’t a compliment.

Christ.

Of course they're trying to exploit others!

As I said, this isn't new news.

But, who the feck is paying £500+? This is a football shirt we're talking about, not some meat in the era of rationing.

No-one has to have it.

You just don’t see it. Spivs in rationing tended to sell luxuries, nobody ‘needed’ it. I’m surprised you think being a spiv is ok - genuinely. It’s hanging and drawing, but it’s shitty behaviour.

The point is I *DO* see it.

It may well be shitty behaviour, but it's human behaviour.

My point is that it's pretty inevitable....and the club won't really mind.

I think you and some others are taking a very narrow commerce theory of it.

Which, in my opinion, ignores the broader picture of the clue trying to build a better relationship with fans and a positive atmosphere around the club - which presumably is why they have said there is an additional order now put in. An admission in effect that they f'ed up and had intended to meet demand, not leave people pissed off at missing out.

Yep, I get that, and I totally understand why people are pissed off......but, the point was about some people putting them on eBay for £500+.

No-one is being forced into paying those prices regardless of any further supply.

No, but I think the club should definitely mind - it got it wrong and hasn't handled the fall out as well as it should have either. Which has driven people trying to flog the shirts for £500+ on ebay and fans being pissed off about how the club has gone about this.

If you look at my thread about the penguin shirts smelling fishy you'll find more info about the £500 eBay listing and others.

On a brighter note, Paul Robinson ex WBA player has been sent one by the club 👍🏾

IanT

Snoop

IanT

Snoop

IanT

newblue

IanT

newblue

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

Charcy

Mikejk

The club can do a bit of investigating and see who’s bought to sell. Could check the names, addresses etc of the people who have listed on eBay and cross reference it with their account details and order

I’ve seen 60 go up on eBay so it’s whether it’s time effective for the club to do

People will resell, it’s not illegal.

What do you want them to do?

Stop being fannyz?

They can do what the eff they like with the shirts once they own them.

🙄 you condone racketeering then? You of all people.

Except that it isn't racketeering.

It's as good as.

It isn't. It really isn't.

No-one is being forced to pay any more than they have to. No-one has to have this shirt.

No-one.

Of course they don’t. If you don’t see people exploiting others in this sort of thing - in this case Blues fans making money out of other blues fans - I don’t see what you are looking at. It’s pretty
shitty behaviour and people exploiting shortages as always been looked on unfavourably. Being called a ‘spiv’ isn’t a compliment.

Christ.

Of course they're trying to exploit others!

As I said, this isn't new news.

But, who the feck is paying £500+? This is a football shirt we're talking about, not some meat in the era of rationing.

No-one has to have it.

You just don’t see it. Spivs in rationing tended to sell luxuries, nobody ‘needed’ it. I’m surprised you think being a spiv is ok - genuinely. It’s hanging and drawing, but it’s shitty behaviour.

The point is I *DO* see it.

It may well be shitty behaviour, but it's human behaviour.

My point is that it's pretty inevitable....and the club won't really mind.

I think you and some others are taking a very narrow commerce theory of it.

Which, in my opinion, ignores the broader picture of the clue trying to build a better relationship with fans and a positive atmosphere around the club - which presumably is why they have said there is an additional order now put in. An admission in effect that they f'ed up and had intended to meet demand, not leave people pissed off at missing out.

Yep, I get that, and I totally understand why people are pissed off......but, the point was about some people putting them on eBay for £500+.

No-one is being forced into paying those prices regardless of any further supply.

No, but I think the club should definitely mind - it got it wrong and hasn't handled the fall out as well as it should of either. Which has driven people trying to flog the shirts for £500+ on ebay and fans being pissed off about how the club has gone about this.

I think the club will just be chuffed that it's been so successful. Yes, they'll want to improve processes for the future, but revenues are what really matter.

I think you are understating the desire for competence (which this hasn't shown - misjudged demand badly and poor comms) and good will from fans. They've sold less than they could, and some fans will have heavily over paid from ebay so less willing/ able to spend on other stuff from the club - really not ideal.

Probably best to agree to disagree though.

And surprise sunrise looks like they have ordered more.

Yes maybe it could have been done better, but it’s always easier to criticise than to do.

The could news is there’s great demand and the club feels alive again. I’m fairly confident there will be stock in the shop until the end of the season.

Snoop

IanT

Snoop

IanT

Snoop

IanT

newblue

IanT

newblue

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

IanT

Richard Kingson

Charcy

Mikejk

The club can do a bit of investigating and see who’s bought to sell. Could check the names, addresses etc of the people who have listed on eBay and cross reference it with their account details and order

I’ve seen 60 go up on eBay so it’s whether it’s time effective for the club to do

People will resell, it’s not illegal.

What do you want them to do?

Stop being fannyz?

They can do what the eff they like with the shirts once they own them.

🙄 you condone racketeering then? You of all people.

Except that it isn't racketeering.

It's as good as.

It isn't. It really isn't.

No-one is being forced to pay any more than they have to. No-one has to have this shirt.

No-one.

Of course they don’t. If you don’t see people exploiting others in this sort of thing - in this case Blues fans making money out of other blues fans - I don’t see what you are looking at. It’s pretty
shitty behaviour and people exploiting shortages as always been looked on unfavourably. Being called a ‘spiv’ isn’t a compliment.

Christ.

Of course they're trying to exploit others!

As I said, this isn't new news.

But, who the feck is paying £500+? This is a football shirt we're talking about, not some meat in the era of rationing.

No-one has to have it.

You just don’t see it. Spivs in rationing tended to sell luxuries, nobody ‘needed’ it. I’m surprised you think being a spiv is ok - genuinely. It’s hanging and drawing, but it’s shitty behaviour.

The point is I *DO* see it.

It may well be shitty behaviour, but it's human behaviour.

My point is that it's pretty inevitable....and the club won't really mind.

I think you and some others are taking a very narrow commerce theory of it.

Which, in my opinion, ignores the broader picture of the clue trying to build a better relationship with fans and a positive atmosphere around the club - which presumably is why they have said there is an additional order now put in. An admission in effect that they f'ed up and had intended to meet demand, not leave people pissed off at missing out.

Yep, I get that, and I totally understand why people are pissed off......but, the point was about some people putting them on eBay for £500+.

No-one is being forced into paying those prices regardless of any further supply.

No, but I think the club should definitely mind - it got it wrong and hasn't handled the fall out as well as it should of either. Which has driven people trying to flog the shirts for £500+ on ebay and fans being pissed off about how the club has gone about this.

I think the club will just be chuffed that it's been so successful. Yes, they'll want to improve processes for the future, but revenues are what really matter.

I think you are understating the desire for competence (which this hasn't shown - misjudged demand badly and poor comms) and good will from fans. They've sold less than they could, and some fans will have heavily over paid from ebay so less willing/ able to spend on other stuff from the club - really not ideal.

Probably best to agree to disagree though.

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Mutley

And surprise sunrise looks like they have ordered more.

Yes maybe it could have been done better, but it’s always easier to criticise than to do.

The could news is there’s great demand and the club feels alive again. I’m fairly confident there will be stock in the shop until the end of the season.

Are you incapable of reading? “Due to the unprecedented demand the Club has worked with Nike to arrange for a second, limited run of the Penguin shirt to be produced. As soon as there is a confirmed date for their arrival, likely to be after the 2026 FIFA World Cup, we will let you know”

Direct from the club statement.

Also, the club have monumentally effed it up. Not sure why so many people are leaping to their defence.

They produced an “exclusive” release window which had no corresponding references so people could forward the link to anyone to order and also buy 4.

They now have no stock for general sale and the 3 day exclusive window was sold out in less than an hour.

There’s limited release which I imagine will be less than 100 units across all sizing.

One thing I will say is the new owners have done very well in driving up club merch sales and the retro shirts etc - they have smashed that in fairness.

But this particular release they made a total pigs ear of it.