Replying to Pondo   19:21, Mon 2 Mar
I do, tbf. It's bad enough we eat the poor feckers, least we can do is kill them as painlessly as possible. I was a slaughterman for a while, years back at Knacker Parkers in Rudge. I know the difference.
Up the feckin Blues
Replying to WR Blue   19:36, Mon 2 Mar
WR Blue
Phillystine
I understand the points you are trying to make. I just don't see any point in getting into a debate over those aspects when our worldviews on them are likely to be completely irreconcilable. It won't make either of us feel any better.

it was clear that our worldviews are completely irreconcilable on many things the other day when you stated your personal and political standpoint on certain issues.

Just to confirm - are you talking about the thread after the Leeds FA Cup game?
Replying to Bluesince62 F.E.A.   19:36, Mon 2 Mar
Is stunning the issue?…..I’ve read that the majority of halal meat in this country is stunned prior to slaughter. Might be a lie, fecked if I know.
Nattt   0
Replying to Pondo   19:38, Mon 2 Mar
Pondo
WR Blue
Phillystine
Like I said before - this is your belief system. I'm not going to get into arguing with it, but I find it as tricky to get my head around as devout religious belief.

I don't think it is my belief system. I think it's your ability to get the point.

A quick example - the percentage of meat sold in the UK that is halal is way higher than the percentage of muslims in the UK. This is just one single example of the way that things are working out in the UK. It's a separate discussion regarding who is primarily responsible for things ending up being unfairly weighted in this manner, but it's irrelevant to the point I was making - which is that this example is representative of many other things in the UK and many people feel that it is time to draw a line in the sand regarding this overreach. Not because of hate or bigotry or anything of the sort, but for the future of some of the most important things in this country. The recent by-election is another ratcheting up of this feeling.

I believe the issue at Leeds is deeply linked to the issues mentioned above.
Who cares whether meat is halal or not?

Quite a lot of people, including all Muslims of course, for a lot of different reasons.
WR Blue   0
Replying to Pondo   19:41, Mon 2 Mar
Pondo
Booing Muslims players taking a 2 minute break is a belief, for you?

No, booing in that situation (not specifically at those players) was a way of people expressing their displeasure at the situation - or so it would seem. I don't understand where this question has stemmed from. Perhaps you could quote the part?

Pondo
Who cares whether meat is halal or not?

I do and I know other people do as well. Again, I am confused about why you would need to ask this question. There are multiple reasons which should be obvious.
WR Blue   0
Replying to Phillystine   19:43, Mon 2 Mar
Phillystine
Just to confirm - are you talking about the thread after the Leeds FA Cup game?

Yes. The thread which I think you started relating to the chants aimed at DCL.
Replying to Fat Buddha OBE   20:03, Mon 2 Mar
Yes, I know that a bolt through the brain is much cleaner than throat slitting. AFAIK there is no law saying that halal kills must be stunned first - it's been many years since I was in the trade so maybe it's changed. Stunning would help - it's still not great though.
Up the feckin Blues
TheHeath   3
Replying to Fat Buddha OBE   20:20, Mon 2 Mar
Fat Buddha OBE
His post was incoherent, but, in essence correct. All religion is bullshit.

Thanks Buddha.

And yes I agree my post was incoherent as it would be after a few too many on a Sunday.

As for Zam, you can believe what you want. I don’t believe in god or gods. But religion is a belief, not a fact, and shouldn’t be beyond criticism.

Thankfully, we have moved on from witch trials and blasphemy laws in this country. I can live my life without the guidance of an imaginary friend.
Pondo   0
Replying to WR Blue   20:44, Mon 2 Mar
WR Blue
No, booing in that situation (not specifically at those players) was a way of people expressing their displeasure at the situation - or so it would seem. I don't understand where this question has stemmed from. Perhaps you could quote the part?
Apologies, I thought quoting the text I was responding to would suffice?
I do and I know other people do as well. Again, I am confused about why you would need to ask this question. There are multiple reasons which should be obvious.
Educate me.
Yes ball games.
Pondo   0
Replying to WR Blue   23:11, Mon 2 Mar
WR Blue
Pondo
Educate me.

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Too obvious.
Why the reticence? You seem happy to bang on about every other aspect of the topic?
Yes ball games.
WR Blue   -2
Replying to Pondo   23:18, Mon 2 Mar
Pondo
You seem happy to bang on about every other aspect of the topic?

Nope.
JourneyOn   0
Replying to BlueJim   07:55, Tue 3 Mar
BlueJim
All religion is bullshit.

Correct.

Football is bullshit. It doesn’t need saying because its important to some people.

I get worked up about how well a group of eleven grown men who are mainly still very young chase a bag of hot air and help it go into a big net.

Its linked to culture, family, traditions etc why its important. I don’t need anyone saying how bullshit it is because its important to me …