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Replying to Miamivice   08:54, Tue 3 Mar
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

Irrelevant to the real importance of tradition, family, culture etc in people’s lives all over the world.

I have faith without any proof that following Birmingham is a worthwhile endeavour. I believe in a fantasy but it is irrelevant to the importance of Football for me and the importance of religion for most people is the same.

Btw the onus is on a theist to prove that God exist because it is impossible to disprove anything. You can’t disprove the existence of invisible pink elephants for example so yes the burden of proof is not on you.

However

You cannot say for a fact that God does not exist.
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Replying to Miamivice   08:55, Tue 3 Mar
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

How do you know?
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Replying to JourneyOn   09:29, Tue 3 Mar
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

Irrelevant to the real importance of tradition, family, culture etc in people’s lives all over the world.

I have faith without any proof that following Birmingham is a worthwhile endeavour. I believe in a fantasy but it is irrelevant to the importance of Football for me and the importance of religion for most people is the same.

Btw the onus is on a theist to prove that God exist because it is impossible to disprove anything. You can’t disprove the existence of invisible pink elephants for example so yes the burden of proof is not on you.

However

You cannot say for a fact that God does not exist.

God does not exist. You try and prove he does. I believe that my dog can levitate. Prove me wrong.
Replying to Nat   09:33, Tue 3 Mar
Nat
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

How do you know?
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Replying to Miamivice   09:35, Tue 3 Mar
Miamivice
Science

He was alright on Big Brother but I have never thought of him as a learned scholar on religion.
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Replying to Fat Buddha OBE   18:09, Tue 3 Mar
Fat Buddha OBE
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

Irrelevant to the real importance of tradition, family, culture etc in people’s lives all over the world.

I have faith without any proof that following Birmingham is a worthwhile endeavour. I believe in a fantasy but it is irrelevant to the importance of Football for me and the importance of religion for most people is the same.

Btw the onus is on a theist to prove that God exist because it is impossible to disprove anything. You can’t disprove the existence of invisible pink elephants for example so yes the burden of proof is not on you.

However

You cannot say for a fact that God does not exist.

God does not exist. You try and prove he does. I believe that my dog can levitate. Prove me wrong.

Exactly what i said if you bothered to read it. You can’t disprove the existence of anything. So, yes the burden of proof doesnt lie with atheists.

Atheism to me however is almost as absurd a position as believing in God (theism) the only truly sensible position is agnosticism for me.
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Replying to Miamivice   18:15, Tue 3 Mar
Miamivice
Football exists.

God, which any form he takes, does not.

I think my argument distilled and better said is this.

Religion exists.

You cannot say it doesnt. It is based on tradition, families, culture and superstitions and for any football fan to ridicule that is a bit effing rich.
Replying to Fat Buddha OBE   18:54, Tue 3 Mar
God does exist.

He may not exist for you or me, but he exists for others. Therefore he exists. It's simple.
Replying to Miguelagonn   19:50, Tue 3 Mar
God does exist.

He may not exist for you or me, but he exists for others. Therefore he exists. It's simple.

No, he doesn’t.
Replying to Miguelagonn   19:56, Tue 3 Mar
Miguelagonn
God does exist.

He may not exist for you or me, but he exists for others. Therefore he exists. It's simple.
Are we applying the same argument to the Tooth Fairy or the blood libel?
Replying to bluearmyfaction   20:01, Tue 3 Mar
If enough people believe something and act as if were true then we have to take it seriously because -even if it is bollox - it's going to affect what happens.
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Replying to Barking Poslethwaite   20:18, Tue 3 Mar
Barking Poslethwaite
If enough people believe something and act as if were true then we have to take it seriously because -even if it is bollox - it's going to affect what happens.

Thank you Confucius.
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Replying to ForeverFrancis   23:09, Tue 3 Mar
Questioning the existence if God is a waste of time in this debate. Its about religious practices and if i wasnt on a football forum i might accept the questioning of religious practices but its laughable for football fans to question anyone’s practices.