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Mentality and Fragility

B47blues 23:08, Mon 2 Mar

evanio   0
Replying to Wisemanblue123   02:44, Tue 3 Mar
Yep. Some might think it’s old school thinking, but most the teams above us have players with lots of Champ experience.,

Even in Jan we didn’t sign anyone with Champ experience.

It might be why your Preston’s, Bristol City’s, Derby’s, Wrexham’s, Hull’s, Millwall’s and Boro’s are above us.
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Brummagem   -1
Replying to evanio   07:55, Tue 3 Mar
I think it’s a combination of factors.

Last season is mentioned a lot but the reality is we cannot use that or compare the positives of last season with this season as the levels are vastly higher in the championship.

Now, we have a manager who is clearly struggling and needs help, however it appears his staff are not up to the required levels to help him and clearly not world class as we were told we would be getting.

Players who do not look as fit as some opposition teams we are facing which I thought was one of our main focus of this project.

The purchase of players over the summer and January that do not seem to fit a coherent, fluid playing style other than for a few games or against weaker teams.

The Leeds game was a prime example of how good we can play and look but CD doesn’t appear to have the confidence to play that style in the league.

I think the above and more, all contribute to our mentality and fragility.
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WR Blue   -2
Replying to Brummagem   09:02, Tue 3 Mar
Brummagem
I think it’s a combination of factors.

Last season is mentioned a lot but the reality is we cannot use that or compare the positives of last season with this season as the levels are vastly higher in the championship.

Now, we have a manager who is clearly struggling and needs help, however it appears his staff are not up to the required levels to help him and clearly not world class as we were told we would be getting.

Players who do not look as fit as some opposition teams we are facing which I thought was one of our main focus of this project.

The purchase of players over the summer and January that do not seem to fit a coherent, fluid playing style other than for a few games or against weaker teams.

The Leeds game was a prime example of how good we can play and look but CD doesn’t appear to have the confidence to play that style in the league.

I think the above and more, all contribute to our mentality and fragility.

I agree with all of this and would add that we are lacking characters in the squad. Apart from Laird, they all seem to be quiet types. That's fine for players like Stanno who is quiet and shy but has a fire in his belly. But overall we need more vocal and aggressive players who help to mold them into a team and give them confidence on the pitch that they're not going to be pushed around.
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Holdsworth_MaraSonner   1
Replying to Brummagem   09:03, Tue 3 Mar
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.
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Nattt   -1
Replying to Holdsworth_MaraSonner   09:07, Tue 3 Mar
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.
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number8   1
Replying to Holdsworth_MaraSonner   09:09, Tue 3 Mar
True. I think the manner of the defeats is drving a lot of this though, and a bit of expectation.

Our record v top 6 is poor, if we can sort that next season we'll be ok.
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Holdsworth_MaraSonner   2
Replying to Nattt   09:16, Tue 3 Mar
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

Coventry are a good example that things sometimes take time.
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Holdsworth_MaraSonner   0
Replying to number8   09:16, Tue 3 Mar
number8
True. I think the manner of the defeats is drving a lot of this though, and a bit of expectation.

Our record v top 6 is poor, if we can sort that next season we'll be ok.

Agreed.
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BigBarryBoozer   0
Replying to Holdsworth_MaraSonner   09:19, Tue 3 Mar
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

TBF, The current owners continued that ideal of sacking managers even when in a half decent position in 2023. Lets see what they do in the Summer. It's been alluded to that he will go if we dont make the Play-Offs.
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Nattt   -1
Replying to Holdsworth_MaraSonner   09:19, Tue 3 Mar
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

How can we be saying "have patience" and "let Davies build" when we keep ripping the team up every six/twelve months?

It's clear that recruitment this season has been geared towards challenging for promotion. That looks very unlikely right now, so somebody will pay the price. In my opinion mind, Gardner is as culpable as Davies and both could/should be gone come the summer.
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Holdsworth_MaraSonner   0
Replying to Nattt   09:26, Tue 3 Mar
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

How can we be saying "have patience" and "let Davies build" when we keep ripping the team up every six/twelve months?

It's clear that recruitment this season has been geared towards challenging for promotion. That looks very unlikely right now, so somebody will pay the price. In my opinion mind, Gardner is as culpable as Davies and both could/should be gone come the summer.

I’m hoping the plan isn’t to rip the squad up in the summer. I honestly don’t think we’re far off. We need a couple of tweaks (including a highly streeetwise Jake Cooper type) and some patience.
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Holdsworth_MaraSonner   0
Replying to BigBarryBoozer   09:26, Tue 3 Mar
BigBarryBoozer
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

TBF, The current owners continued that ideal of sacking managers even when in a half decent position in 2023. Lets see what they do in the Summer. It's been alluded to that he will go if we dont make the Play-Offs.

They did. I hope they’ve learned from the disaster last time.
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Beduff Blue   1
Replying to B47blues   09:30, Tue 3 Mar
I see a culture in the club of do as you are told. We come across as robotic and predictable, slow and calculated. In other words I feel we are over coached and the players are not allowed to deviate from the plan. The gaffer comes a cross as a control merchant and one that distrusts any sort of maverick behaviour. I could be wrong and I don't see much live football anymore but the interviews I see and the games I have watched tell me there is a fear of failure. We have become a difficult place for strikers to flourish, or any player who is not getting much game time. Cashin now settled is getting good reviews, Dykes is scoring goals, Leonard looks to have found his form. A good manager produces a team greater than the sum of all it's parts. Do we?
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B47blues   -2
Replying to Beduff Blue   09:32, Tue 3 Mar
Cashin is playing in a low block hoofball team, Dykes has 2 in 10 and Leonard is playing in a pub league
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BigBarryBoozer   0
Replying to Holdsworth_MaraSonner   09:35, Tue 3 Mar
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
BigBarryBoozer
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
Nat
Holdsworth_MaraSonner
We have 18 points from the last 10 games. We’ve lost two games to the teams in second and third. The crisis seems a little overstated to me.

We've come up well short against two sides we are meant to be competing for promotion with. It is more than understandable why people aren't happy.

We either go back to being world champions at sacking managers (I think the last 15 years shows us how that tends to go) or we have a bit of patience and let Davies build. I know which I’d prefer.

We’ve turned into a club where fan sentiment changes based on every 45 minutes of football. I don’t think that’s a sensible way to be.

TBF, The current owners continued that ideal of sacking managers even when in a half decent position in 2023. Lets see what they do in the Summer. It's been alluded to that he will go if we dont make the Play-Offs.

They did. I hope they’ve learned from the disaster last time.

I guess the question is, would it be as much of a disaster if they did the smarter thing and decided to make a managerial decision in the Summer?
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