rubywalsh   2
Replying to thethinblueline   09:26, Tue 3 Mar
We just need 2-3 big mean physical feckers. The likes of all of the top 6 currently have.

I actually think we have one in Robinson and personally I think he should of started against boro and millwall as he’s a horrible bastard and we need them types of players all of which Chris Davies doesn’t like.

I like Chris Davies but he has a certain type and he certainly has his favourites. No doubt Iwata will be sat on his lap this morning having a cuddle !

This league you simply need experience and physicality to compete all of which we don’t have.

We’re crying out for a Matt grimes type in the middle who will carry these little princess over the line.

We’re simply not street wise enough or mean enough and far to lightweight!
BlueJim   0
Replying to Haribo   09:27, Tue 3 Mar
Nikola Zigic
- Proper number 1

- Commanding left footed partner for Klarer

- A big frame physical midfielder who can cover ground and play. In addition to Solis.

- A number 10 we trust, to allow for a change in approach.

- A right back. Laird misses 4 months a season and BOS can't defend.

- A channel running centre half rolling striker to replace Kyogo.

- A left wing replacement for Osman when he goes back.

7 signings in the summer will do us.

Not much then 🤣🤣🤣🤣

He's right though, these areas are what we need to improve upon, especially the spine of the team needs upgrading.

We don’t need 12-13 new players like in previous summer's but at least 7 this time.
HughBlue2   0
Replying to thethinblueline   09:28, Tue 3 Mar
thethinblueline
Absolutely have to get a keeper who we can categorically say is the number 1.

A right back who can defend and stay fit.

A centre back (preferably left footed) who isn’t a complete bomb scare.

A consistent all round midfielder with some physicality

Jury out on Priske who I like the look of and hope will be what we need.

Whether CD & CG are the men to bring these in remains another matter

I think we need to focus on bringing in players who are experienced at this level. The Championship is a tough league and having players who have done it before is massive for team mentality.

At this point i’d rather we spend a budget on 3-5 really good Championship players than 6-8 players who are showing promise but need to adapt to the league.

Having players that know how to get out of the league is absolutely massive at this level.

Certainly massive factors in both Wrexham and Hulls seasons so far.
Replying to Haribo   09:30, Tue 3 Mar
Nikola Zigic
- Proper number 1

- Commanding left footed partner for Klarer

- A big frame physical midfielder who can cover ground and play. In addition to Solis.

- A number 10 we trust, to allow for a change in approach.

- A right back. Laird misses 4 months a season and BOS can't defend.

- A channel running centre half rolling striker to replace Kyogo.

- A left wing replacement for Osman when he goes back.

7 signings in the summer will do us.

Not much then 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Far less than we've needed the last 4 or 5 summers though, so it's an improvement.
Bagel   0
Replying to HughBlue2   10:05, Tue 3 Mar
HughBlue2
thethinblueline
Absolutely have to get a keeper who we can categorically say is the number 1.

A right back who can defend and stay fit.

A centre back (preferably left footed) who isn’t a complete bomb scare.

A consistent all round midfielder with some physicality

Jury out on Priske who I like the look of and hope will be what we need.

Whether CD & CG are the men to bring these in remains another matter

I think we need to focus on bringing in players who are experienced at this level. The Championship is a tough league and having players who have done it before is massive for team mentality.

At this point i’d rather we spend a budget on 3-5 really good Championship players than 6-8 players who are showing promise but need to adapt to the league.

Having players that know how to get out of the league is absolutely massive at this level.

Certainly massive factors in both Wrexham and Hulls seasons so far.

The players we have signed that are experienced at this level have been, largely, the biggest offenders.

BOS, Cashin, Beadle, Robinson, even Doyle has been disappointing after a great start, Koumas.

Yes having players who have been promoted before is great, but how many available, too good for the champ, willing to drop to champ, willing to be sold by the top end champ teams/promoted prem teams are there?

We're not exactly going to be able to sign a bunch of players from Cov, Ipswich, Wolves etc are we?
Replying to Nikola Zigic   10:09, Tue 3 Mar
Nikola Zigic
Far less than we've needed the last 4 or 5 summers though, so it's an improvement.

I'm not sure either CD or CG will be around to oversee the summer window.
Haribo   1
Replying to BlueJim   10:15, Tue 3 Mar
BlueJim
Nikola Zigic
- Proper number 1

- Commanding left footed partner for Klarer

- A big frame physical midfielder who can cover ground and play. In addition to Solis.

- A number 10 we trust, to allow for a change in approach.

- A right back. Laird misses 4 months a season and BOS can't defend.

- A channel running centre half rolling striker to replace Kyogo.

- A left wing replacement for Osman when he goes back.

7 signings in the summer will do us.

Not much then 🤣🤣🤣🤣

He's right though, these areas are what we need to improve upon, especially the spine of the team needs upgrading.

We don’t need 12-13 new players like in previous summer's but at least 7 this time.

You can do that ad-finitum, there's no guarantee it works.

There were what? 12-13 in the summer, 7 in the window, which is pretty much a whole squad. So now get rid of half them, and replace them? It's not a game whereby you change half the squad every six months until it works.

I'd rather we had an experienced Championship manager who can improve players, adapt styles to suit oppositions (back five for Boro last night blew CDs mind), and identify experienced players to suit his needs.
Stercus accidit
NouCamp   0
Replying to Haribo   10:20, Tue 3 Mar
A confident/experienced GK
A reliable CB
A dynamic CM
A genuine CF

If Davies gets the sack then a decent no.10
Replying to thethinblueline   10:23, Tue 3 Mar
I think its easy to be reactionary after last night. I think Laird and BOS are not the weakest area of our squad so we should persist with them. Doyle, Beadle and Osman are not our players so we need to replace them in the Summer. Possibly with better loan players. We need to try and move players like Kyogo, Fujimoto and Neumann on to generate funds which will not be easy as they will be on big wages.
Rasputin   1
Replying to Haribo   10:24, Tue 3 Mar
You'd think after all the years where we've churned squads over season after season and the lack of success that achieved, people would realise that at some point you have to stick with the players you have and coach them to be *better*.
the odds are against us, and the situation is grim
HughBlue2   2
Replying to Bagel   10:25, Tue 3 Mar
Bagel
HughBlue2
thethinblueline
Absolutely have to get a keeper who we can categorically say is the number 1.

A right back who can defend and stay fit.

A centre back (preferably left footed) who isn’t a complete bomb scare.

A consistent all round midfielder with some physicality

Jury out on Priske who I like the look of and hope will be what we need.

Whether CD & CG are the men to bring these in remains another matter

I think we need to focus on bringing in players who are experienced at this level. The Championship is a tough league and having players who have done it before is massive for team mentality.

At this point i’d rather we spend a budget on 3-5 really good Championship players than 6-8 players who are showing promise but need to adapt to the league.

Having players that know how to get out of the league is absolutely massive at this level.

Certainly massive factors in both Wrexham and Hulls seasons so far.

The players we have signed that are experienced at this level have been, largely, the biggest offenders.

BOS, Cashin, Beadle, Robinson, even Doyle has been disappointing after a great start, Koumas.

Yes having players who have been promoted before is great, but how many available, too good for the champ, willing to drop to champ, willing to be sold by the top end champ teams/promoted prem teams are there?

We're not exactly going to be able to sign a bunch of players from Cov, Ipswich, Wolves etc are we?

The only players we have signed that hit the Good Championship player quota are BOS, Roberts and Doyle. BOS has been mostly injured and only hit over 30 league games in the Championship once in a season, Doyle has been in and out of the team and only Roberts has consistently played out of the 3.

Only Roberts and Doyle have been promoted before of those 3.

Robinson had great experience but was clearly past it and seemingly only signed because other targets fell through.

Cashin had 2 half seasons at this level including 1 of them in Derbys already relegated administration team.

Beadle had 18 months at Sheff Weds where he was poor and got dropped by the end of 24-25 season.

Koumas had 1 season of being shit at this level.

By proven Championship players I mean players who have either been promoted before or players that have actually been decent before at this level for an extended period of time.

If you look at Wrexham and Hulls signings they mostly went down this route. Millwall, Boro, Cov and Ipswich have make ups of this all through their squad.

I would say Cov are maybe outliers a little bit as most of their signings in the last few years have been younger and come good.

Preston and Bristol also have cores of experienced Championship players.

If we want to get promoted you’ve got to start using the more than proven formula.

It’s fine adding a couple of exciting data driven players to the squad from overseas in the hope they adapt but that can’t be most of the team.

It’s been our undoing as much as having a substandard manager.
Replying to Haribo   10:33, Tue 3 Mar
Haribo
I'd rather we had an experienced Championship manager who can improve players, adapt styles to suit oppositions (back five for Boro last night blew CDs mind), and identify experienced players to suit his needs.

The Boro manager came in from overseas, so the proven Championship manager part is not a necessity, but helps. You are right about the improving players part. I can't think of one single player CD has improved.