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Painful to see Duck being signalled out for criticism. He’s been great.

Striker that scores goals. How awful.

SB2

Painful to see Duck being signalled out for criticism. He’s been great.

Striker that scores goals. How awful.

Imagine if he didn't score anywhere near as many, but ran a bit more and challenged for headers more?

We could have had our own Lyndon Dykes!

I'm not sure he's worth the game price: yes he scores but we can't win a midfield battle against better teams with him in there.

This sounds like the Harry Kane argument for England.

and they were wrong on that - if they can score goals, you build a team around them and let them do their thing.

Now, im not comparing Harry Kane to MD in terms of ability, I'm comparing the criticism.

Maybe the point is England have done better with Kane playing than we have with Ducksch playing this season. Especially away from home. So until that team is built Ducksch isn’t nailed. Next season Priske could well be the one we need to play

Rab C Nesbitt

Maybe the point is England have done better with Kane playing than we have with Ducksch playing this season. Especially away from home. So until that team is built Ducksch isn’t nailed. Next season Priske could well be the one we need to play

we've been miles better away from home when Ducksch has played vs without.

Painful to see Duck being signalled out for criticism. He’s been great.

Striker that scores goals. How awful.

Lol that was meant to say singled. iPhone reword is ridiculous at times!

I don't think the issue away from home has been Ducksch, it's been when it's been Ducksch + Stansfield together, because neither compete effectively for the ball or offer much in behind when we're being pressed.

Ducksch with someone who can do that stuff should be fine, it was at Norwich with Priske. I'd be playing Priske in every away game, I'd play him in most home games too tbh.

(Just replying to the thread btw)

Bagel

Rab C Nesbitt

Maybe the point is England have done better with Kane playing than we have with Ducksch playing this season. Especially away from home. So until that team is built Ducksch isn’t nailed. Next season Priske could well be the one we need to play

we've been miles better away from home when Ducksch has played vs without.

I think usually the problem has been going with Doyle and Ducksch in the same team- we just don't have enough mobility in the team for away games with both in the side so are too easy to overrun through the middle.
Which isn't to say it is perfect away from home, as Millwall showed, but generally with Solis and Paik in there, I think we will usually have enough in the team to not get overrun.

There is then the secondary problem of out balls, if we have Stansfield and Ducksch we don't have an alternative to playing through the press.

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Ducksch is a large reason we beat the runaway league leaders at home. He's vital in those games imo, as Le Mod says him and Priske should be the partnership.

WelshBlue

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Explain the Coventry (2 goals) and the goal he scored vs Boro then.

Nat

WelshBlue

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

Tandy

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Explain the Coventry (2 goals) and the goal he scored vs Boro then.

The goal against Boro when they had dominated us to be leading 3:1 by the time he was substituted? That game. Try to think about the overall game and not an individual moment. It's the Hogan 'but he scored' syndrome.

WelshBlue

Nat

WelshBlue

All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?