Replying to Nattt   14:50, Wed 4 Mar
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All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

How did the game go for us?

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?

How did the game go for us?
Bagel   0
Replying to Angelsey Blue   14:55, Wed 4 Mar
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All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

How did the game go for us?

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?

How did the game go for us?

Alright then, let's drop every single player who played then because we lost so they all are too lightweight. What a fecking inane point.

What's the alternative? Play Stansfield there who also is weak and doesn't play like Jude Bellingham? Play Kanya?

It's not like the Scott Hogan argument at all. It's more like the 'Chris Wood will never play in the Prem cause all he does is score loads and loads of goals' argument.
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Replying to Angelsey Blue   14:55, Wed 4 Mar
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All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

How did the game go for us?

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?

How did the game go for us?

You could use that argument for all eleven players.

Shall we drop them all on Saturday?
Replying to Nattt   14:57, Wed 4 Mar
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All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?

And nearly equalised immediately after if not for a very good save.

Bloke is mustard.
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Replying to Bagel   14:58, Wed 4 Mar
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All the Duck lovers are missing the point. We can afford to, and should, play Duck against lesser teams where his nouse can unlock a stubborn defence. We perhaps shouldn't play him in tighter games where the opposition waltz through our lightweight team that's effectively down to 10 men in open play.

Bit like top of the table Coventry where he scored twice in a 3-2 win?

Individual examples do not an overall point make. We should cross more because Juke scored from a cross once. Think generalities not exceptions.

How did the game go for us?

OK

He also scored against Boro the other night, they are 2nd.

Or is that another exception too?

How did the game go for us?

Alright then, let's drop every single player who played then because we lost so they all are too lightweight. What a fecking inane point.

What's the alternative? Play Stansfield there who also is weak and doesn't play like Jude Bellingham? Play Kanya?

It's not like the Scott Hogan argument at all. It's more like the 'Chris Wood will never play in the Prem cause all he does is score loads and loads of goals' argument.

Not Chris Wood though, Is it? Chris got better with age but he was always an out ball under pressure. Duck isn't helpful to us when we are under pressure. There will be some games where his attributes/moments of genius are outweighed by his lack of contribution when we are under the cosh and don't have the ball.
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Replying to Angelsey Blue   15:01, Wed 4 Mar
He's not an out ball under pressure, at all, but not sure the solution would be to remove him, it would be to add someone who's an out ball under pressure.
Replying to Le Mod   15:10, Wed 4 Mar
In some games we will have the ball enough to cope with his deficiencies and make use of his attributes. In other games we won't.
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Replying to Angelsey Blue   15:21, Wed 4 Mar
Given Stanno has 1 goal in his last 19 games and Priske has 0, Duck should be starting every game until season end imo.

Though I think playing him as a CAM is silly, he’s a finisher first and foremost. He often gets rushed off the ball in the centre whereas eg Roberts wouldn’t and he can also pitch in defensively.

Middlesbrough’s 352 when defending was perfect. Think it’s crazy we haven’t tried that all season. Duck thrived at Cov when getting quick counter attacking balls from Wagner. Vicente can do it on the other side.
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Replying to Angelsey Blue   15:39, Wed 4 Mar
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In some games we will have the ball enough to cope with his deficiencies and make use of his attributes. In other games we won't.

I would say in every game we play we need to score a goal. Nobody else on our team does it anywhere near as well. Ergo he needs to play.
Replying to Le Mod   15:48, Wed 4 Mar
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He's not an out ball under pressure, at all, but not sure the solution would be to remove him, it would be to add someone who's an out ball under pressure.
I’ve said I’d play Priske every game but ideally have Solis playing behind every game too. To cover for Ducksch’s weaknesses. Doesn’t this indicate though how ridiculously lacking in strategy how recruitment has been for years though?
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Replying to Bagel   15:53, Wed 4 Mar
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In some games we will have the ball enough to cope with his deficiencies and make use of his attributes. In other games we won't.

I would say in every game we play we need to score a goal. Nobody else on our team does it anywhere near as well. Ergo he needs to play.

From the Birmingham Mail -

The broadcast included a graphic that attested to the fact, perhaps more articulately than even the German’s most ardent supporter could.

Blues were both a point and a goal per game better off with the former Werder Bremen forward starting.

With Ducksch starting their record read Played 19, Won 10, PPG 1.9, GPG 1.8. When he wasn’t Blues had won only three of 15 and averaged 0.9 points and 0.7 goals.
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Replying to Snoop   16:09, Wed 4 Mar
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In some games we will have the ball enough to cope with his deficiencies and make use of his attributes. In other games we won't.

I would say in every game we play we need to score a goal. Nobody else on our team does it anywhere near as well. Ergo he needs to play.

From the Birmingham Mail -

The broadcast included a graphic that attested to the fact, perhaps more articulately than even the German’s most ardent supporter could.

Blues were both a point and a goal per game better off with the former Werder Bremen forward starting.

With Ducksch starting their record read Played 19, Won 10, PPG 1.9, GPG 1.8. When he wasn’t Blues had won only three of 15 and averaged 0.9 points and 0.7 goals.

Yeah we don't need goals or points though. We need to 'win the midfield battle'.
Replying to Bagel   16:13, Wed 4 Mar
Goals and winning the midfield battle will equate to more points.
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Bagel   0
Replying to Rab C Nesbitt   16:18, Wed 4 Mar
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Goals and winning the midfield battle will equate to more points.

Sure, then in that case having Ducksch on the pitch seems to mean we win the midfield battle more. Because we're getting more points.

We are objectively a much better team with the guy who scores goals on the pitch and it's absolutely mental that anyone doesn't think he's our best attacker.
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Replying to Rab C Nesbitt   16:21, Wed 4 Mar
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Goals and winning the midfield battle will equate to more points.

Yes but we have the squad we have.
I don't see dropping Ducksch to strengthen our midfield getting us more goals nor points, even if we do edge the midfield battle.