StechyBlue   0
Replying to Redditch Blue   11:28, Tue 3 Mar
Apologies for the length of this post.

Correct. This Plan B (is there or isn’t one) debate has been done to death on here so I don’t wish to revisit it tactically. As a supporter, it’s not my job to work out all of the intricacies.

Whether he is or isn’t adapting during games is one debate, but the only consequence for me is whether any changes pay dividends often enough. Ultimately I still leave the game feeling we’ve played ok and been unlucky to lose, etc, or don’t! What’s happened regarding substitutions, formations, etc, along the way doesn’t bother me.

It’s the same with XG, I don’t care for it to be honest. I prefer to judge on the actual scorelines and also what my own eyes tell me about our general performance levels.

What I do assess is whether, as a game is progressing, my feel for the game tells me that we are likely to get back into a match from a losing position for example. I can only recall Middlesbrough away as being a game when I was reasonably impressed by how we played after falling behind. I’ll say Leeds too in fairness and therein lies a point because that was a complete shackles off blood and thunder game. That game, from the outset, seemed different from our usual approach.

We came from behind to win at Blackburn, yes, but I thought that was a poor game against a very limited side who could just as easily have beaten us as it goes.

You look back at last season and we notably came back to beat Wrexham and Peterborough at home early on but in those games we just let very poor early goals in. I never felt as though the opposition had made life difficult for us in that we wouldn’t come through in the end. We didn’t have to change the approach with which we’d begun the game.

However, in the games where we were truly put under the pump and struggled to get any momentum going, it just carried on in the same fashion for the entire game.

I recall Charlton, Shrewsbury and Bolton away (the three league games we lost) and then Peterborough at Wembley as being the matches in which once it was clear we were struggling and genuinely being outplayed that we were never going to get back into them.

I appreciate I’m picking four games out of 50-odd here and that we got 111 points so it sounds ridiculous to criticise, but I do think there’s an argument that once we were truly put out of our rhythm we didn’t tend to find the answers.

What has impressed me under Davies generally has been our ability to hold on to points from winning positions, but in recent months we’ve dropped off there. Not closing it out against Stoke, Charlton and Southampton at home, none of whom played well against us in my opinion, has hurt us.

We are not a bad side but, for whatever combination of reasons, we are nowhere near ruthless enough in both boxes.
Agree- and yeah it's easy to pick examples but they are relevant.

You make a good point - in league one we were good enough to stick to plan A and turn the match around more often than not. Some of those 1-0 away wins just epitomised league one - you can play crap and still win a lot of the time.

It doesn't work in the championship. Teams work you out and see what else you've got. Which on many occasions is nothing.
Replying to StechyBlue   11:56, Tue 3 Mar
It's clear we're a kind of mid-table team, which given the last 10 seasons is no bad thing. Stability.

But to get to the next level, looks like we haven't got enough. For a while, it was clear the players weren't good enough. But we have now bought some decent players in.

I think we can write off the play-offs so let's see how the final 11 games go. What would be great to see if some convincing wins and battling back from going behind.
b34blues   0
Replying to Haircut1000   12:04, Tue 3 Mar
Lose like we did at Millwall on Saturday at Charlton’s and alarm bells will be ringing very loudly for Davies I’m a big fan of his since he’s been here but over the last few months something just seems off with the team and the mood within the squad don’t no if it’s me looking to much into the body language but I watches stanno when he came off and he wouldn’t shake priskes hand he just gave it a little slap like he didn’t want to do that , I don’t no something has changed down the blues over the last few months you can just feel it ..Hope I’m wrong
Replying to Haribo   12:19, Tue 3 Mar
I think you're spot on with this summary.

Compare our recruitment policy to Wrexham, who spent just as much money as Blues, but on experienced Championship players while we bought in the likes of Neumann, Ducksch, Kyogo. When it wasn't working in Jan we did the same again with Wagner, Solis, Priske and Vicente.

I'm not saying they are bad players, but we're finding out now filling your team with players not used to the speed and physicality of the Championship is not a recipe for success - not in your first season at least.

I do think we have the backbone of a promotion winning team for next season, but need to buy in proven Championship experience in the summer, a GK, left-sided CB, RB, Midfielder in the Jon Solis mode at least.
Gavlaaa40   1
Replying to Redditch Blue   12:23, Tue 3 Mar
Redditch Blue
Apologies for the length of this post.

Correct. This Plan B (is there or isn’t one) debate has been done to death on here so I don’t wish to revisit it tactically. As a supporter, it’s not my job to work out all of the intricacies.

Whether he is or isn’t adapting during games is one debate, but the only consequence for me is whether any changes pay dividends often enough. Ultimately I still leave the game feeling we’ve played ok and been unlucky to lose, etc, or don’t! What’s happened regarding substitutions, formations, etc, along the way doesn’t bother me.

It’s the same with XG, I don’t care for it to be honest. I prefer to judge on the actual scorelines and also what my own eyes tell me about our general performance levels.

What I do assess is whether, as a game is progressing, my feel for the game tells me that we are likely to get back into a match from a losing position for example. I can only recall Middlesbrough away as being a game when I was reasonably impressed by how we played after falling behind. I’ll say Leeds too in fairness and therein lies a point because that was a complete shackles off blood and thunder game. That game, from the outset, seemed different from our usual approach.

We came from behind to win at Blackburn, yes, but I thought that was a poor game against a very limited side who could just as easily have beaten us as it goes.

You look back at last season and we notably came back to beat Wrexham and Peterborough at home early on but in those games we just let very poor early goals in. I never felt as though the opposition had made life difficult for us in that we wouldn’t come through in the end. We didn’t have to change the approach with which we’d begun the game.

However, in the games where we were truly put under the pump and struggled to get any momentum going, it just carried on in the same fashion for the entire game.

I recall Charlton, Shrewsbury and Bolton away (the three league games we lost) and then Peterborough at Wembley as being the matches in which once it was clear we were struggling and genuinely being outplayed that we were never going to get back into them.

I appreciate I’m picking four games out of 50-odd here and that we got 111 points so it sounds ridiculous to criticise, but I do think there’s an argument that once we were truly put out of our rhythm we didn’t tend to find the answers.

What has impressed me under Davies generally has been our ability to hold on to points from winning positions, but in recent months we’ve dropped off there. Not closing it out against Stoke, Charlton and Southampton at home, none of whom played well against us in my opinion, has hurt us.

We are not a bad side but, for whatever combination of reasons, we are nowhere near ruthless enough in both boxes.

I agree with a lot here.

I do think the data pointing to us being a good side is important to KH, American sports organisations embraced this far earlier than we ever did, i get fans not being overly fussed by it as the important number is the scoreline at the end of the day but you don't want to change a manager or head coach for the sake of it only to find the same issues still remain.

One thing that you mention that the data will show as a negative is what we do in both penalty boxes - we create more chances than most and give away less chances than most and yet for whatever reason we do not take anywhere near enough of the chances we create and every chance we give up seems to be a goal, i suppose the question is why?
BLUENOSE B   0
Replying to Typhoontechie   12:32, Tue 3 Mar
Typhoontechie
Not sure, but I reckon Davies has about 7 months to have us looking like automatic contenders or he will be off.

If we don't go up this year, which looks very unlikely now, then I reckon he has ten games at the start of next year to have us in the top two or he will be for the tin tack, rightly or wrongly. Only change incan see to that is if someone KH really like the look of becomes available before that, such as Farke etc

He wont get next season.
Replying to Gavlaaa40   14:30, Tue 3 Mar
Bang on with your last point and that is the biggest, but hardest, thing to address. How many times this season has the opposition taken points off us with their only shot on target whereas we’ve had five or six etc?

A great example was Bristol away when they only threatened our goal once (their goal) and we had 75 per cent or thereabouts possession. I couldn’t believe the amount of our fans on here and other platforms who thought we’d played well. Whatever we were doing, we looked like we could have played for a week and not scored. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team have so much ball and look so toothless.

I just get the nagging feeling that he’s going to get the bullet, on the balance of just not being effective enough in both boxes.
Replying to montypenguin   17:21, Tue 3 Mar
montypenguin
I think you're spot on with this summary.

Compare our recruitment policy to Wrexham, who spent just as much money as Blues, but on experienced Championship players while we bought in the likes of Neumann, Ducksch, Kyogo. When it wasn't working in Jan we did the same again with Wagner, Solis, Priske and Vicente.

The Wrexham side on Saturday with the exception of Kaboré the right wing back British home grown players including the substitutes.

Players with lots of Championship/ League one experience again with the exception of the right wing back .
Some Players which the football pundits on this site said weren't good enough for us when they signed them.

I remember them signing both Josh Windass and Kieffer Moore and the " we should be looking to do much better " comments.
StechyBlue   0
Replying to ForeverFrancis   17:34, Tue 3 Mar
montypenguin
I think you're spot on with this summary.

Compare our recruitment policy to Wrexham, who spent just as much money as Blues, but on experienced Championship players while we bought in the likes of Neumann, Ducksch, Kyogo. When it wasn't working in Jan we did the same again with Wagner, Solis, Priske and Vicente.

The Wrexham side on Saturday with the exception of Kaboré the right wing back British home grown players including the substitutes.

Players with lots of Championship/ League one experience again with the exception of the right wing back .
Some Players which the football pundits on this site said weren't good enough for us when they signed them.

I remember them signing both Josh Windass and Kieffer Moore and the " we should be looking to do much better " comments.

They are in a good spot..but with 11 games to go a lot can change. Also.. IF they don't go up, how many times can you sustain that ? When you have to keep replacing 30 + year olds.

It can work to a point, but i dont want us to resort to that because 30 year holds can't play the press Davies wants season after season.

We need youth and athleticism, not to be fully ripping the squad up every season. So the wrexham model has done well to now....but if they miss out, can they keep finding gems who deliver and afford them with no return?