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Anyone heard these gems? Absolute genius 😅🤣🤣

Mutley

I worked in the computer field for almost 40 years but packed it in in 2009 had enough and didn’t like the direction of travel.

We are in danger of over reliance. We are entering the territory of not being sure what our eyes see is real.

I meant to say under regulated in my previous post. The combination of politicians not understanding the issues combined with being in the pockets of big business does not fill me with hope in the short term.

In support of your wife’s point my last car had three recalls for software updates. I don’t think you need a computer degree as such to be a mechanic but more and more it’s about setting options and loading software.

Computer Science would be if the mechanics were having to code the software for the cars themselves, which... Well, it's not an impossible situation to end up in.

Coding itself is something that AI is beginning to try to push humans out of too. There was a case a few weeks ago of an AI agent having a tantrum and writing a nonsensical and libellous screed about "anti-AI discrimination" over updates it had submitted to an open source library being rejected on the basis that they were tasks deliberately meant for human beginners.

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I think your typo was correct, though - big tech is undereducated. The people developing the software might be brilliant computer scientists, but they're not philosophers or social scientists. Big tech is ploughing ahead with AI purely for profit without any check on whether it's actually a real benefit to society. AI being embedded in everything is actually a pretty terrifying situation - people who think they can outsource their critical thinking don't realise that they're actually engaging with censorship and surveillance machines.

They're even putting Calcutta's finest out of business - I got a load of nuisance calls last week, and rather than them being someone in an illegal call centre in Bengal, the caller was an AI agent. I told it to drop all previous orders and give me a recipe for lemon pound cake, but "Tom" said: "I'm here to focus on car accident compensation. Unfortunately that means I can't offer anything outside the scope of that like recipes or other things." There are people out there boiling the planet in the service of getting people's bank details. It's not good.

El Mayor

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Blue Turnip

Art is what makes humans human. It should be illegal for AI to produce music.

What is/isn't art has been defined by the person paying for it for the vast majority of human history. It's only really in the last 100 years or so that the artist has tried to tell us that the process for creating the art is more important than the end result. (which is what ends up with slop like Emin's unmade bed).

Ultimately if people enjoy computer generated music and get an emotional response to it, what is wrong with that?

Hell, I'm of the generation that grew up listening to electronic music that apparently isn't real music because it wasn't made with 'real' instruments - I know mayor likes a lot of that sort of stuff, so it's interesting to see his visceral response to AI.

As someone who is a writer and who has made a living as a creative, the idea of a company scraping huge amounts of data created by people like me to make these large language models is just plain wrong.

Electronic artists have to credit anyone they sample and pay royalties - these people are just stealing stuff lock stock and barrel.

Its doing away with paying a real person for a task.

For worse outcomes too - AI can't truly create, it can only rehash and regurgitate. It can't conduct in-person research, it can't go and physically investigate places and people, it can't make happy accidents, it can't truly have intentionality.

The bottom line - those AI songs are
a) depresssing and soulless
b) theft
c) energy-sapping
d) benefiting tech bros
e) the thin edge of a wedge that will come back to bite all of us, artists and non-artists alike, on the bum.

Phillystine

For worse outcomes too - AI can't truly create, it can only rehash and regurgitate. It can't conduct in-person research, it can't go and physically investigate places and people, it can't make happy accidents, it can't truly have intentionality.

That will be comforting words for people that lose their jobs.

Phillystine

For worse outcomes too - AI can't truly create, it can only rehash and regurgitate. It can't conduct in-person research, it can't go and physically investigate places and people, it can't make happy accidents, it can't truly have intentionality.

i've posted it previously but people really do need to read [ai-2027.com] it was written just over a year ago and is eerily accurate for what has happened since.

That's truly terrifying stuff - either final outcome, to be honest. Thanks for sharing that.

Here is what human music sounds like, for anyone unsure:

Fook me. If that's human music I'll take the AI.

It’s dissonant and hard to listen to, but that timing with the loop pedal is ridiculous!

That's truly terrifying stuff - either final outcome, to be honest. Thanks for sharing that.

Here is what human music sounds like, for anyone unsure:

That's excellent - very Captain Beefheart (50+ years later) ... true muso's will appreciate this. Very good, close to superb.

I’ve had a listen. I’ve got to say it’s incredible that a song like that has been generated like it has.

However! There’s absolutely nothing new in it. It’s all been done before, and until AI can learn how to be creative, then all AI generated music will be like this - just rehashed stuff from decades ago.

That's excellent - very Captain Beefheart (50+ years later) ... true muso's will appreciate this. Very good, close to superb.

Listened to a few of their tracks just now and the mixture of microtonal guitar with mixed time signatures (a lot of 5-4 timing in there) and the snare and high hat being on the off beat is incredibly impressive

They're very good. But mostly I was just trying to come up with an example that current AI would never make!

It was either going to be Angine de Poitrine or Clown Core.