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El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

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El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

Holdsworth_MaraSonner

Palmerliam11

Wouldnt suprise me, people have suggested we was after him before. What we need imo in that 10 role

I’d be very surprised if the 10 isn’t Stroeykens from Anderlecht providing he’s fit. Was very close in the summer and very close again in January.

And from what I’ve heard they’re very keen for no more than 6/7 max incoming over the summer, which sounds about right. They don’t want a massive rebuild again.

Surely Stroeykens would be a bit outlay. Figured we'd be a bit more stringent this summer

The question also is, why wasnt there a plan B / C / D etc for similar players that play the same way in the same position at a similar age range with the same upside.

We cant just have one plan A / Idea and then if that doesnt work out go onto something completely different (Ducksch or Kanya).

How do you know we didn’t and we couldn’t sign those players either?

We only know what makes the press - I’m pretty confident none of us knows the full story and I’m super confident it’s not as easy as can be made out on here.

How do I know? We didnt sign those players because we didnt, did we? Were we looking to sign 21 year old attacking midfielder Mario Stroeykens? Thats whats insinuated here as I dont think it made the press. If we were and for whatever reason, medical again insinuated, unable to get it over the line, who did we sign that was a similar profile of player to Mario Stroeykens?

He's a 21 year old attacking midfielder, looking at his profile, young, pace, technique with clear long term upside, injuries aside.

We signed 31 year Marvin Ducksch who is a languid, slow second striker and 26 Year Old Kanya Fujimoto, who although a creative midfielder, plays a more deeper playmaker role and seemingly not suited for the English game.

If the club have identifed a player like Mario Stroeykens they should also have 2,3,4,5 similar Mario Stroeykens types, players with the same profile, style, age range so that should anything go wrong with player 1, we have similar players within the same profile we can look to as alternatives.

The Mirror reported it, IIRC.

Fair enough, I didnt see it.

Point still stands though, where were the list of alternatives? Going from Barriero and Stroeykens to Ducksch and Kanya? They are vastly different types of player.

It's the reason why I have reservations on our recruitment. A lack of joined up thinking and forward planning.

We signed Kanya on July 6 and Ducksch on August 7. Is it possible we signed them before we looked at Stroeykens? Just saying…

BigBarryBoozer

El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

BigBarryBoozer

El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

Holdsworth_MaraSonner

Palmerliam11

Wouldnt suprise me, people have suggested we was after him before. What we need imo in that 10 role

I’d be very surprised if the 10 isn’t Stroeykens from Anderlecht providing he’s fit. Was very close in the summer and very close again in January.

And from what I’ve heard they’re very keen for no more than 6/7 max incoming over the summer, which sounds about right. They don’t want a massive rebuild again.

Surely Stroeykens would be a bit outlay. Figured we'd be a bit more stringent this summer

The question also is, why wasnt there a plan B / C / D etc for similar players that play the same way in the same position at a similar age range with the same upside.

We cant just have one plan A / Idea and then if that doesnt work out go onto something completely different (Ducksch or Kanya).

How do you know we didn’t and we couldn’t sign those players either?

We only know what makes the press - I’m pretty confident none of us knows the full story and I’m super confident it’s not as easy as can be made out on here.

How do I know? We didnt sign those players because we didnt, did we? Were we looking to sign 21 year old attacking midfielder Mario Stroeykens? Thats whats insinuated here as I dont think it made the press. If we were and for whatever reason, medical again insinuated, unable to get it over the line, who did we sign that was a similar profile of player to Mario Stroeykens?

He's a 21 year old attacking midfielder, looking at his profile, young, pace, technique with clear long term upside, injuries aside.

We signed 31 year Marvin Ducksch who is a languid, slow second striker and 26 Year Old Kanya Fujimoto, who although a creative midfielder, plays a more deeper playmaker role and seemingly not suited for the English game.

If the club have identifed a player like Mario Stroeykens they should also have 2,3,4,5 similar Mario Stroeykens types, players with the same profile, style, age range so that should anything go wrong with player 1, we have similar players within the same profile we can look to as alternatives.

The Mirror reported it, IIRC.

Fair enough, I didnt see it.

Point still stands though, where were the list of alternatives? Going from Barriero and Stroeykens to Ducksch and Kanya? They are vastly different types of player.

It's the reason why I have reservations on our recruitment. A lack of joined up thinking and forward planning.

We signed Kanya on July 6 and Ducksch on August 7. Is it possible we signed them before we looked at Stroeykens? Just saying…

And that doesnt change the fact we signed players that they (recruitment team/coach) should have known were going to struggle in English football as well as one with no clear upside profile wise.

Whether that was before or after doesnt really matter. It was poor recruitment and a lack of joined up thinking.

El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

BigBarryBoozer

El Mayor

BigBarryBoozer

Bagel

Holdsworth_MaraSonner

Palmerliam11

Wouldnt suprise me, people have suggested we was after him before. What we need imo in that 10 role

I’d be very surprised if the 10 isn’t Stroeykens from Anderlecht providing he’s fit. Was very close in the summer and very close again in January.

And from what I’ve heard they’re very keen for no more than 6/7 max incoming over the summer, which sounds about right. They don’t want a massive rebuild again.

Surely Stroeykens would be a bit outlay. Figured we'd be a bit more stringent this summer

The question also is, why wasnt there a plan B / C / D etc for similar players that play the same way in the same position at a similar age range with the same upside.

We cant just have one plan A / Idea and then if that doesnt work out go onto something completely different (Ducksch or Kanya).

How do you know we didn’t and we couldn’t sign those players either?

We only know what makes the press - I’m pretty confident none of us knows the full story and I’m super confident it’s not as easy as can be made out on here.

How do I know? We didnt sign those players because we didnt, did we? Were we looking to sign 21 year old attacking midfielder Mario Stroeykens? Thats whats insinuated here as I dont think it made the press. If we were and for whatever reason, medical again insinuated, unable to get it over the line, who did we sign that was a similar profile of player to Mario Stroeykens?

He's a 21 year old attacking midfielder, looking at his profile, young, pace, technique with clear long term upside, injuries aside.

We signed 31 year Marvin Ducksch who is a languid, slow second striker and 26 Year Old Kanya Fujimoto, who although a creative midfielder, plays a more deeper playmaker role and seemingly not suited for the English game.

If the club have identifed a player like Mario Stroeykens they should also have 2,3,4,5 similar Mario Stroeykens types, players with the same profile, style, age range so that should anything go wrong with player 1, we have similar players within the same profile we can look to as alternatives.

The Mirror reported it, IIRC.

Fair enough, I didnt see it.

Point still stands though, where were the list of alternatives? Going from Barriero and Stroeykens to Ducksch and Kanya? They are vastly different types of player.

It's the reason why I have reservations on our recruitment. A lack of joined up thinking and forward planning.

We signed Kanya on July 6 and Ducksch on August 7. Is it possible we signed them before we looked at Stroeykens? Just saying…

And that doesnt change the fact we signed players that they (recruitment team/coach) should have known were going to struggle in English football as well as one with no clear upside profile wise.

Whether that was before or after doesnt really matter. It was poor recruitment and a lack of joined up thinking.

Okay, so the thing I’ve learned here is you’ve made your mind up and you are never going to consider that there may be a slightly alternative position to take - which tbh is on me cos these days everyone is like that. 🤷‍♂️

Thrillhouse

The summer window was clearly botched; on paper a lot of it seemed exciting, but I think - in hindsight - an emphasis on building on what worked in league one, coupled with committing big wages on Dimi and Kyogo, left us on the back foot, particularly from a physical point of view and at that back end of the window when we were scratching around the plug gaps.

January was a course correction, and if this summer follows a similar trajectory, I’m willing to suggest lessons have been learned and we don’t necessarily need to rip up the entire recruitment department.

Rab C Nesbitt

Them not playing was on Davies. Not the players being shit

Rab C Nesbitt

Maybe. But the lack of a big 9 and Solis type definitely harmed us

Maybe. But the lack of a big 9 and Solis type definitely harmed us

Nikola Zigic

Maybe. But the lack of a big 9 and Solis type definitely harmed us

You couldn't say so at the time though

Nikola Zigic

Maybe. But the lack of a big 9 and Solis type definitely harmed us

You couldn't say so at the time though

Docky91

Thrillhouse

The summer window was clearly botched; on paper a lot of it seemed exciting, but I think - in hindsight - an emphasis on building on what worked in league one, coupled with committing big wages on Dimi and Kyogo, left us on the back foot, particularly from a physical point of view and at that back end of the window when we were scratching around the plug gaps.

January was a course correction, and if this summer follows a similar trajectory, I’m willing to suggest lessons have been learned and we don’t necessarily need to rip up the entire recruitment department.

So was January actually a better window? Or is it the change in system. Because if we go back 6 games, Solis wasn’t playing in favour of Doyle signed in the summer, Priske wasn’t playing in favour of Duksch signed in the summer, Vicente wasn’t playing in favour Roberts signed in the summer, then in the flip you had Panzo playing in favour of Neumann.

Vicente was looking pretty poor often just staying outside and having no one pass to him, Solis was getting worse imo.

So it’s interesting we talk about January so positively when 6 games ago most weren’t playing. I think it’s more to do with a change in system than the players being duds.

Honestly if we’re calling signing a starting centre back, our joint top goal scorer, our best consistent attacking threat (Roberts imo) our best assister from midfield and statistically best defensive midfielder (Doyle), and also Dimi Gray who at times
Looks a step above the division when he’s on his game, a crap window, then my friends you have many more to come.

This is before I even add BOS who someone looks incredible for Nigeria and trash for us, and also Osman who has been electric recently,

Alfvoy

Docky91

Thrillhouse

The summer window was clearly botched; on paper a lot of it seemed exciting, but I think - in hindsight - an emphasis on building on what worked in league one, coupled with committing big wages on Dimi and Kyogo, left us on the back foot, particularly from a physical point of view and at that back end of the window when we were scratching around the plug gaps.

January was a course correction, and if this summer follows a similar trajectory, I’m willing to suggest lessons have been learned and we don’t necessarily need to rip up the entire recruitment department.

So was January actually a better window? Or is it the change in system. Because if we go back 6 games, Solis wasn’t playing in favour of Doyle signed in the summer, Priske wasn’t playing in favour of Duksch signed in the summer, Vicente wasn’t playing in favour Roberts signed in the summer, then in the flip you had Panzo playing in favour of Neumann.

Vicente was looking pretty poor often just staying outside and having no one pass to him, Solis was getting worse imo.

So it’s interesting we talk about January so positively when 6 games ago most weren’t playing. I think it’s more to do with a change in system than the players being duds.

Honestly if we’re calling signing a starting centre back, our joint top goal scorer, our best consistent attacking threat (Roberts imo) our best assister from midfield and statistically best defensive midfielder (Doyle), and also Dimi Gray who at times
Looks a step above the division when he’s on his game, a crap window, then my friends you have many more to come.

This is before I even add BOS who someone looks incredible for Nigeria and trash for us, and also Osman who has been electric recently,

I'd love to know which statistic makes Doyle our best defensive midfielder?