StechyBlue   2
Replying to shd   08:17, Tue 5 May
They think they're rally drivers i swear, but they're just basically kids without a sense of the reality of going through a windscreen and being wiped off the car in front with a cloth and a spray bottle.
Replying to shd   08:18, Tue 5 May
The percentage of criminals on the roads are scary. No seat belts, mobile phone use, speeding. It’s mental what you see when you walk a lot
Alive. Early starter. Enricher of lives
Replying to Rab C Nesbitt   08:23, Tue 5 May
No front number plates to avoid the speed cameras.

Personally, I'd incentivize Plod on those. You catch it, you keep it.
sandpit72   8
Replying to shd   08:32, Tue 5 May
Had the misfortune to be in the Nechells Star City area a while back, people tearing round the islands in souped up cars wheelspinning, hanging out of windows and sunroofs clutching Palestine flags, shouting at passers by, pretty much the law of the jungle.
A danger to themselves and the innocent public.
Rasputin   4
Replying to shd   08:34, Tue 5 May
Trouble is the punishments these animals get are barely a smack on the wrist.

I quite like watching these fly on the wall documentaries where they follow the emergency services around, and to see the time and effort the Plod go to to try and stop and catch these people only to see them get community service or a couple of years at best must be utterly disheartening for the average policeman.

I watched this the other day: [www.bbc.co.uk]

40 months in prison (out in half that obs) for ruining someone's life.
[www.bbc.co.uk]

We really do need to start making actions have real consequences for the criminal underclass in this country.
"A good man always knows his limitations"
Block27one   0
Replying to sandpit72   09:23, Tue 5 May
Had the misfortune to be in the Nechells Star City area a while back, people tearing round the islands in souped up cars wheelspinning, hanging out of windows and sunroofs clutching Palestine flags, shouting at passers by, pretty much the law of the jungle.
A danger to themselves and the innocent public.

Same in small heath Bordesley green, put your life in your hands driving after 8 pm.😳🤷‍♂️
Replying to Rasputin   10:44, Tue 5 May
The sentences for killing or causing injury by driving are always laughably short aren’t they. Always seem like all involved, from lawmakers the legal system, give drivers some sort of dispensation that other criminals don’t get.

As Rab says above, the amount of lower scale stuff I see when walking or cycling about is crazy. People staring right down at their phones and scrolling when driving, jumping lights, carnage on ‘the school run’ etc. - but it’s all completely normalised by British society. It’s a big part of why British towns and cities are so rubbish compared to, say, Spain.
Rasputin   2
Replying to The Devlin Disguise   11:16, Tue 5 May
Don't get me going on the school run.

I live on a cul-de-sac near multiple schools, and yes I knew that when I bought it!

But it's got so, so much worse in the last couple of years.

The level of entitlement from parents who think they can literally leave their car wherever they want is shocking, parked across drives, blocking pavements, on double yellows, double parked, parked across junctions forcing kids to walk on the main road etc.

Had an 'incident' a few weeks ago walking my daughter (both of us fully on the pavement), where a parent mounted the pavement at speed and so close to us my daughter had to jump out the way, the parent then blocked the entire pavement, on a dropped kerb and blocking a neighbour's drive. Me shouting "It's a pavement not a f*cking car park" through the window did not go down well as they followed me into the playground screaming abuse at me for calling out their dangerous driving.

Never any police or council presence to control this obviously.
"A good man always knows his limitations"
StechyBlue   0
Replying to bluearmyfaction   11:20, Tue 5 May
It's partly because the CPS doesn't have the courage to go after death by dangerous driving enough. So settles for reckless.

If they f*** the case up though and the person whom killed your son/daughter walks free it's a tough crowd, delivering that news to grieving parents.

I suspect some of these cases they simply don't believe they have enough to go on in the eyes of the law. It's wrong, but it's the law as it stands.
Replying to bluearmyfaction   11:20, Tue 5 May
bluearmyfaction
It's partly because the CPS doesn't have the courage to go after death by dangerous driving enough. So settles for reckless.

The Welsh one linked was actually injury from dangerous though, and I think the maximum is only 5 years for that.
Replying to Rasputin   11:24, Tue 5 May
Yes, pavement parking is particularly deranged. Like they are bothered more about their wing mirrors and ‘keeping traffic flowing’ than they are about people in wheelchairs, kids or indeed anyone walking. Absolute car-brained.
Replying to The Devlin Disguise   13:04, Tue 5 May
The ignorant drivers are one thing but it’s the obliviousness of some drivers that get me - pulling out/changing lanes without looking, carrying on over pedestrian crossings with their eyes fixed forward, not a care in the world. Just totally no awareness of the world outside their car.

Lost my rag at one guy the other week who started reversing off the pavement as I was walking past with the dog, started apologising, “oh I didn’t see you.” Just have a modicum of fcuking awareness before you seriously injure or kill someone
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