Replying to Muzz   17:58, Thu 28 May
Muzz
We used to be told after asking what’s for tea,
Shit with sugar on.

Shit on toast for me .
Replying to ForeverFrancis   18:08, Thu 28 May
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.
Replying to Angelsey Blue   20:27, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

Absolute nonsense Suzy , glad to see you're a Blues fan though you've never metioned it on Countdown .
Replying to Angelsey Blue   20:35, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
cladger   -2
Replying to Phillystine   20:56, Thu 28 May
you're still shitting yella - you're a big baby
crash the ash - please may I have a cigarette
deaf him out - ignore him
Replying to Phillystine   21:19, Thu 28 May
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.

This ^

People claiming only absolutely unique words are Brummagen slang such as gambole ? That is absolute nonsense .

I'm sure if i could be bothered to research the word I'd find it didn't originate in Brum .

It's how etemolgy works and it's how we use words within a dialect that make it unique and confuse others, the words don't have to unique in themselves .

A usually level headed poster had a go at me in this thread about the word ' desperate' when I said it was an Irish thing .

I wasn't saying the word desperate was Irish ? I was a bit confused tbh .I was told it dated back 100's of years and wasn't Irish .I know as an Irish speaker that it isn't an Irish word .I suspect Latin or French ?

It is the way the word is used often ,frequently and in everyday conversation that is an ' Irish thing'.

The amount of times I've been asked what an ' island ' is outside of Birmingham ( an everyday word) , and had to explain it's an roundabout " aah OK " I've lost count of .

Perhaps I'm too proud of things that matters to me ,and being a Brummie , my accent , and the way I talk is one of them .👍
Replying to Phillystine   21:21, Thu 28 May
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well
Replying to Angelsey Blue   22:16, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍
Replying to ForeverFrancis   22:44, Thu 28 May
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍

Yeah. You might be right. Gravel; that's a Birmingham word.
Replying to Angelsey Blue   22:58, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍

Yeah. You might be right. Gravel; that's a Birmingham word.

Nope Proto Celtic origins and you can buy gravel in bags countrywide .

I guarantee no one's eating rocks , sucking on a jubli ,eating a tip top or drinking pop in this weather anywhere but in Birmingham tonight .

However they're not Brummie slang either apparently, i read that somewhere recently .

Who cares anyway ? I'm nursing my dumpling , drank too many tots tonight and ended up doing a gamble in the garden .😆👍
Replying to ForeverFrancis   23:01, Thu 28 May
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.

Jubli are from Wrexham


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍

Yeah. You might be right. Gravel; that's a Birmingham word.

Nope Proto Celtic origins and you can buy gravel in bags countrywide .

I guarantee no one's eating rocks , sucking on a jubli ,eating a tip top or drinking pop in this weather anywhere but in Birmingham tonight .

However they're not Brummie slang either apparently, i read that somewhere recently .

Who cares anyway ? I'm nursing my dumpling , drank too many tots tonight and ended up doing a gamble in the garden .😆👍

Jubli originate from Wrexham.
Replying to Angelsey Blue   23:10, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.

Jubli are from Wrexham


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍

Yeah. You might be right. Gravel; that's a Birmingham word.

Nope Proto Celtic origins and you can buy gravel in bags countrywide .

I guarantee no one's eating rocks , sucking on a jubli ,eating a tip top or drinking pop in this weather anywhere but in Birmingham tonight .

However they're not Brummie slang either apparently, i read that somewhere recently .

Who cares anyway ? I'm nursing my dumpling , drank too many tots tonight and ended up doing a gamble in the garden .😆👍

Jubli originate from Wrexham.

Yeh lovely Jubbly 👍 Modern Hosses originate from the Eurasian steps as well .👍
Replying to Phillystine   23:11, Thu 28 May
Linguist a oppined to me in a lecture long ago that the black country accent was due to shouting over the noise of heavy machinery as the industrial revolution progressed this meant exaggerated mouth and tongue movement which resulted in the accent also that Scots people tended to speak with their lips opening only partly and this was due to the weather in winter with Howling freezing gales and making it painful to speak on showing your teeth
Weird
Replying to Angelsey Blue   23:32, Thu 28 May
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Phillystine
Angelsey Blue
ForeverFrancis
Angelsey Blue
Most of these were common across the country. Very few 'Birmingham' sayings. Remember, pre 1900s, almost everyone in Birmingham came from somewhere else, even if it was just the fields of Warwickshire.

Jubli are from Wrexham


You could say about the etymology of all English language.

Must be why when I said " I went to the outdoor at the back of Rackham's for a pop.As a came out I nearly got hit by a hoss at the island which sent me gambolling landing on my dumpling.My jubli and all my rocks went flying ,and my Dudley was broken ,which left me with a face as long as Livery Street"
Everybody in Yorkshire understood me .👍

Remove the black country words and phraseology and the common use words (island...?) and the Welsh ice lolly, you're left with probably the the two genuinely distinct Birmingham-only sayings.

You understand that dialects tend to be a continuum, right? Black Country and Brummie are going to share words and phrases in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do.

Likewise, both Brummie and Black Country will share words and phrases more regionally (cob vs bap, etc) in the same way that Geordie and Mackem do with Cumbria, North Yorks, Lowland Scots, etc.

If you expect Brummie to have a lot of vocab and phrasing that literally nobody else uses, you're not describing a dialect, you're describing a language.
Traffic light. That's a phrase that Brummies use. My grandad used to say: wait til the traffic light goes green. Remember it well

Definitely used elsewhere in the country, and the words traffic and lights are in the dictionary. The word traffic derives from Old French/Italian and Lights originally from ancient Greek .So not uniquely Birmingham slang I'm afraid Nnrrr .😎👍

Yeah. You might be right. Gravel; that's a Birmingham word.

Nope Proto Celtic origins and you can buy gravel in bags countrywide .

I guarantee no one's eating rocks , sucking on a jubli ,eating a tip top or drinking pop in this weather anywhere but in Birmingham tonight .

However they're not Brummie slang either apparently, i read that somewhere recently .

Who cares anyway ? I'm nursing my dumpling , drank too many tots tonight and ended up doing a gamble in the garden .😆👍

Jubli originate from Wrexham.

" Jubblys gained their iconic status by becoming immensely popular in Birmingham and the surrounding areas .So much so that the Gerard Moorhouse Seymour Road factory in Nuneaton went into full time production in the 1950's to supply the demand " 👍

Lamb comes also comes from Wales I Iove that as well 🥩🐑