SHA Small Heath Alliance

Yep - that’s why change is needed.

Docky91

El Mayor

Docky91

Le Mod

The world class bit was tongue in cheek, but competence and good decision making over self preservation is what I’d like to see.

Yeah that wasn’t aimed at you directly it’s just a term that’s been bandied round a lot.

In all honesty, I think CG is a good DoF and has done well for us, I don’t think the players are particularly playing up to their system but when you look at what we paid for the likes of Wagner, Klarer, Roberts, Paik, Gray, Laird, Neumann etc we have done well.

Yes there was definitely some areas of the squad left weak however we do not know what type of player he was told to go for etc. I honestly think to imply he is incompetent is grossly undervaluing him (again not directed at you)

His job isn’t just recruitment though and you need to judge him on more than that

I see your comment on this previously. I don’t think a DoF does influence the style of play however? Unless im mistaken, but that would be madness I mean look at Liverpool they retain DoF and have changed styles and then changes back et.

The connection to the coaching staff I understand, there is very clearly a big disconnect. I can imagine him and CD not getting in particularly well as they strike me as very different people.

Leaving aside the DoF time line at Liverpool, I think you are confusing match tactics with style of play.
Under both Klopp and Slot, Liverpool played a high pressing, possession based style of play. They will continue to do so under Iraola. Klopp interpreted that in a more high energy style while Slot did so in a more patient way but the style of play was fairly consistent at a high level and used the same profile of players. Liverpool didn't have to recruit a whole new batch of players for Slot because he wanted to play counter attacking football. In turn the players they signed last summer should be suited to playing Iraola's tactics.

El Mayor

Yep - that’s why change is needed.

Fair play Dan. I know you like him on a personal level.
It’s also a time ly remember that Knighthead are learning on the job, but have to make better decisions

RectoryPark

I was told while in Portugal for pre-season (yes it might not be true) that an ex coach that left the club allegedly received 500k when Jude got transfered from the blues?

Are coaches employed directly or are they self employed?

They'll mostly be full time employees.
There's nothing wrong with a coach getting a bonus for a transfer. It happens all the time
Jude was out of contract. He could have gone for training compensation, but we got around £40m in the end..
If Speakman helped convince him to get Blues the £ it was £0.5m well spent.

In the lower league where clubs rely on transfer income it's very common for coaches and managers to be on a bonus for a transfer. Develop a player that is worth a lot to a club and you do well out of it.
There is a lot of money in football and coaches are often relatively poorly paid and they weren't always top players. I don't think it is a problem.

Where it can become a problem is if the interest is too big. Once a coach or a manger starts benefitting from transfers that don't benefit the club so much that is a problem If you sell a player for £3m and it could have been £10m next year, but the manger needed £200,000 now then that is a problem.

Someone doing what is good for the player and the club and also benefitting themselves isn't an issue. It's when the benefit becomes the main objective that problems start.

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Thank feck for that. His summer recruitment ruined half our season.

Thank god for that

he can go back to supporting the vile now, we can and must look to recruit better

suttonblue

Thank feck for that. His summer recruitment ruined half our season.

Also the manager for not acknowledging it, and playing to a system that suited his players.

Dan Ashworth is incoming, but only after the World Cup win.

But seriously if the club get the replacement right, It’s a hugely positive forward move for the club.

I’ll get down voted, but I can’t see us making an appointment that takes us backwards from where we are today tbh.

I can. The football decisions haven’t been great so far.

evanio

Dan Ashworth is incoming, but only after the World Cup win.

But seriously if the club get the replacement right, It’s a hugely positive forward move for the club.

I’ll get down voted, but I can’t see us making an appointment that takes us backwards from where we are today tbh.

It won’t be Ashworth. Dude is second highest paid person at the FA

I can see a lot of sense in bringing in Speakman personally.

I was a bit tongue in cheek matey, I acknowledge the FA can’t compete with the top Premiership clubs for finance and we may be a llttle way of that for a few years.

I’m still uplifted at opportunity we have in front of us now.

I hope we get near to a good choice.