SHA Small Heath Alliance

Burlington Bertie

We're looking for a fitness coach and academy goalkeeping coach now, seems someone is still signing off reqs.

Rab C Nesbitt

Burlington Bertie

We're looking for a fitness coach and academy goalkeeping coach now, seems someone is still signing off reqs.

Stockdale to do both

El Mayor

Fat Buddha OBE

Can anyone provide copy of Gardners job description so us less clever ones can judge how he’s performed against it? I haven’t got a clue if he’s done well or not but I do know we just finished in our highest position for yonks.

I think a copy of his actuak job description might be difficult, but someone has already posted in the thread what he's responsible for:

Burlington Bertie

It encompasses the entire footballing strategy from grass roots scouting, setting out how the 1st teams will play and all sides in-between and being the conduit from the ownership to the coaching staff.

Contract negotiations, transfer negotiations, recruitment of key staff in coaching, ops and medical.

It's a huge job, and for what it's worth I don't think CG has done too badly, but we're now at a juncture where we need experience and standing in the role in the game.

I like Craig, but I think there is enough wrong at the club to justify people saying we need a change.

It's not about our league position - the lack of good prospects coming through, the lack of joined up thinking when it comes to recruitment of players and players coming through, the turnover of football staff... there's quite a few issues within the club.

Sheep2

El Mayor

Fat Buddha OBE

Can anyone provide copy of Gardners job description so us less clever ones can judge how he’s performed against it? I haven’t got a clue if he’s done well or not but I do know we just finished in our highest position for yonks.

I think a copy of his actuak job description might be difficult, but someone has already posted in the thread what he's responsible for:

Burlington Bertie

It encompasses the entire footballing strategy from grass roots scouting, setting out how the 1st teams will play and all sides in-between and being the conduit from the ownership to the coaching staff.

Contract negotiations, transfer negotiations, recruitment of key staff in coaching, ops and medical.

It's a huge job, and for what it's worth I don't think CG has done too badly, but we're now at a juncture where we need experience and standing in the role in the game.

I like Craig, but I think there is enough wrong at the club to justify people saying we need a change.

It's not about our league position - the lack of good prospects coming through, the lack of joined up thinking when it comes to recruitment of players and players coming through, the turnover of football staff... there's quite a few issues within the club.

I was wondering if Gardner's job is a bit too big for one person.
If the tale of him working all hours is true maybe it should be split so that player recruitment and coach recruitment is different people working together.

I have very little idea if he is the right person or approaches things in the best way, but it doesn't matter how good someone is if you burn them out with overwork.

Sheep2

I was thinking more of assistants coming in below him or alongside at most, not above.
That is if he stays.

I think it would be an issue anyway whoever is director of football. . I'm not sure how bigger clubs do it, but Liverpool must have had different people working on the multiple transfers last Summer with the top team supervising rather than trying to negotiate all the deals.

If we want to be a big club we need more very competent people at all levels. Attempting to run lean would be a mistake. You don't get the best out of people by overworking them (except very occasionally in short bursts).

Gavlaaa40

Sheep2

I was thinking more of assistants coming in below him or alongside at most, not above.
That is if he stays.

I think it would be an issue anyway whoever is director of football. . I'm not sure how bigger clubs do it, but Liverpool must have had different people working on the multiple transfers last Summer with the top team supervising rather than trying to negotiate all the deals.

If we want to be a big club we need more very competent people at all levels. Attempting to run lean would be a mistake. You don't get the best out of people by overworking them (except very occasionally in short bursts).

Genuinely not sure if he does a good job or not but this thread has led me down a rabbit hole looking at how we set up behind the scenes and it appears as though the 2 men who would be closer to transfers than CG are Joe Carnell (head of recruitment) who directs the day-to-day scouting infrastructure and analytical profiling of transfer targets & Steve Spencer (Head of first team recruitment) who coordinates the statistical model for assessing incoming players, both descriptions have been lifted from Google.

For reference CGs role is described as this "oversees the club's overarching football strategy, data-led talent acquisition, and performance departments".

He has been DoF for nearly 18 months now and in that time we have achieved cat 1 status at the Academy, won League 1 and achieved our best league finish in over a decade, would any of that happened without him? probably yes, but it still happened with him at the club so you have to give some credit to him for that.

There are obvious issues within the club that need fixing, i read earlier in the thread that you need to give a DoF 3-5 years before you can truly judge their performance as a whole and if CG goes i would assume more changes would follow as you would still have those directly below him doing the same jobs and we would still be using the same data software that we currently do, presumably if the club decides they want him to go they will want to revamp it all, basically there are many more layers to this than i first thought.

Sheep2

I was thinking more of assistants coming in below him or alongside at most, not above.
That is if he stays.

I think it would be an issue anyway whoever is director of football. . I'm not sure how bigger clubs do it, but Liverpool must have had different people working on the multiple transfers last Summer with the top team supervising rather than trying to negotiate all the deals.

If we want to be a big club we need more very competent people at all levels. Attempting to run lean would be a mistake. You don't get the best out of people by overworking them (except very occasionally in short bursts).

Sheep2

I was thinking more of assistants coming in below him or alongside at most, not above.
That is if he stays.

I think it would be an issue anyway whoever is director of football. . I'm not sure how bigger clubs do it, but Liverpool must have had different people working on the multiple transfers last Summer with the top team supervising rather than trying to negotiate all the deals.

If we want to be a big club we need more very competent people at all levels. Attempting to run lean would be a mistake. You don't get the best out of people by overworking them (except very occasionally in short bursts).

If people think that a DoF is negotiating deals - they’re very wrong. Blues have 50% of transfers from two agencies in the last 18 months. There’s a reason for that.

Pearcy

Gone apparently (to be announced shortly)

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