Replying to Docky91   16:01, Wed 2 Sep
Docky91
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Who were they?

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Here’s a thread detailing people defending not playing Roberts and shoving Paik down the middle and Stansfield out left instead.
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newblue   0
Replying to Docky91   18:07, Wed 2 Sep
Docky91
newblue
Who were they?

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Here’s a thread detailing people defending not playing Roberts and shoving Paik down the middle and Stansfield out left instead.

I don’t think that thread show that at all. I’ve just read through it and I can’t see anyone saying they like it. Maybe I missed something. Some of the hostility to Davies on there and the over reaction (by some but quite a lot) is pretty horrible to read to be honest. For me anyway. People get so angry, way beyond frustration.

You said Vicente could play left and indeed he did well enough. Actually, the first half against Wrexham was excellent and Gray played there and Vicente on the other side where he normally plays. We have options.

I think Davies must have thought he needed a more defensive midfield by playing Paik forward(ish). Some of the comments there are Paik and Iwata will always be picked, the best option is Solis and Paik (maybe but the last two performances have been pretty good with that midfield). I think most of us would agree we look a much better team with Stansfield inside, Priske isn’t isolated any more and Stansfield isn’t relatively wasted, in fact looks somewhat rejuvenated. It’s taken too long to get to this point but I abhor the tone of a lot of those comments. Some by people who say appear when we go a goal down (undeservedly) against Saints.
Docky91   1
Replying to newblue   18:14, Wed 2 Sep
newblue
Docky91
newblue
Who were they?

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Here’s a thread detailing people defending not playing Roberts and shoving Paik down the middle and Stansfield out left instead.

I don’t think that thread show that at all. I’ve just read through it and I can’t see anyone saying they like it. Maybe I missed something. Some of the hostility to Davies on there and the over reaction (by some but quite a lot) is pretty horrible to read to be honest. For me anyway. People get so angry, way beyond frustration.

You said Vicente could play left and indeed he did well enough. Actually, the first half against Wrexham was excellent and Gray played there and Vicente on the other side where he normally plays. We have options.

I think Davies must have thought he needed a more defensive midfield by playing Paik forward(ish). Some of the comments there are Paik and Iwata will always be picked, the best option is Solis and Paik (maybe but the last two performances have been pretty good with that midfield). I think most of us would agree we look a much better team with Stansfield inside, Priske isn’t isolated any more and Stansfield isn’t relatively wasted, in fact looks somewhat rejuvenated. It’s taken too long to get to this point but I abhor the tone of a lot of those comments. Some by people who say appear when we go a goal down (undeservedly) against Saints.

There’s a lot around that time [www.smallheathalliance.com] it went on across
Multiple threads of excuses why Roberts couldn’t play whereby this fictional injury appeared to become facts.

In relation to to your last paragraph, I actually think when we went down against Southampton most were quite positive, I would be considered a moaner and many others like me actually
Thought we could get back into it which we did. I think if you go through the match thread, there was some criticism of the finishing which is Somewhat warranted but for the most part it seemed to me upbeat about how we was playing
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Replying to Docky91   18:32, Wed 2 Sep
You were, I wasn’t thinking of but if you read it back others weren’t, and coincidentally they’re the ones most vociferous on that thread you link. I don’t think there was any cause for negativity than regretting the great chances we missed and not getting ahead. Which most did acknowledge. If it had stayed 0-1🤷🏻‍♂️

I may be wrong but my recollection is that most people thought we should be seeing Roberts more. He was underutilised. Personally I think wingers can and should switch more. CD I think responded to criticism by simultaneously battening down the hatches a bit but also going longer because we ‘need faster transition’. We do need to adapt our style but again I think most of us can see although we need to be solid we need more patten and structure in our play and what you said (with others) is a big part of that.
‘Comically negative’ - Colin Robinson
Replying to newblue   18:36, Wed 2 Sep
Not reading all that but seem to recall plenty saying Roberts a luxury we can’t afford as not strong/diligent enough doing the ugly shite.

Summat like that.
Haribo   1
Replying to Docky91   18:41, Wed 2 Sep
Docky91
newblue
Docky91
newblue
Who were they?

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Here’s a thread detailing people defending not playing Roberts and shoving Paik down the middle and Stansfield out left instead.

I don’t think that thread show that at all. I’ve just read through it and I can’t see anyone saying they like it. Maybe I missed something. Some of the hostility to Davies on there and the over reaction (by some but quite a lot) is pretty horrible to read to be honest. For me anyway. People get so angry, way beyond frustration.

You said Vicente could play left and indeed he did well enough. Actually, the first half against Wrexham was excellent and Gray played there and Vicente on the other side where he normally plays. We have options.

I think Davies must have thought he needed a more defensive midfield by playing Paik forward(ish). Some of the comments there are Paik and Iwata will always be picked, the best option is Solis and Paik (maybe but the last two performances have been pretty good with that midfield). I think most of us would agree we look a much better team with Stansfield inside, Priske isn’t isolated any more and Stansfield isn’t relatively wasted, in fact looks somewhat rejuvenated. It’s taken too long to get to this point but I abhor the tone of a lot of those comments. Some by people who say appear when we go a goal down (undeservedly) against Saints.

There’s a lot around that time [www.smallheathalliance.com] it went on across
Multiple threads of excuses why Roberts couldn’t play whereby this fictional injury appeared to become facts.

In relation to to your last paragraph, I actually think when we went down against Southampton most were quite positive, I would be considered a moaner and many others like me actually
Thought we could get back into it which we did. I think if you go through the match thread, there was some criticism of the finishing which is Somewhat warranted but for the most part it seemed to me upbeat about how we was playing

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Comments like "ineffectual, he was poor, nothing to suggest he gets in over Vicente, not the messiah, unhappy and disinterested, etc, etc
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Docky91   0
Replying to newblue   18:43, Wed 2 Sep
newblue
You were, I wasn’t thinking of but if you read it back others weren’t, and coincidentally they’re the ones most vociferous on that thread you link. I don’t think there was any cause for negativity than regretting the great chances we missed and not getting ahead. Which most did acknowledge. If it had stayed 0-1🤷🏻‍♂️

I may be wrong but my recollection is that most people thought we should be seeing Roberts more. He was underutilised. Personally I think wingers can and should switch more. CD I think responded to criticism by simultaneously battening down the hatches a bit but also going longer because we ‘need faster transition’. We do need to adapt our style but again I think most of us can see although we need to be solid we need more patten and structure in our play and what you said (with others) is a big part of that.

My thoughts on wingers is quite simplistic tbh, you have 4 good wingers, you tell the start 2 to absolutely run themselves knackered for 60 mins and then you sub them for the other 2.

I’m not gonna go through yesterdays match thread but I remember it mostly Positive but I think I would have ignored most negative comments as it was a clear it was an improved performance.
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Replying to Haribo   19:13, Wed 2 Sep
Haribo
Docky91
newblue
Docky91
newblue
Who were they?

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Here’s a thread detailing people defending not playing Roberts and shoving Paik down the middle and Stansfield out left instead.

I don’t think that thread show that at all. I’ve just read through it and I can’t see anyone saying they like it. Maybe I missed something. Some of the hostility to Davies on there and the over reaction (by some but quite a lot) is pretty horrible to read to be honest. For me anyway. People get so angry, way beyond frustration.

You said Vicente could play left and indeed he did well enough. Actually, the first half against Wrexham was excellent and Gray played there and Vicente on the other side where he normally plays. We have options.

I think Davies must have thought he needed a more defensive midfield by playing Paik forward(ish). Some of the comments there are Paik and Iwata will always be picked, the best option is Solis and Paik (maybe but the last two performances have been pretty good with that midfield). I think most of us would agree we look a much better team with Stansfield inside, Priske isn’t isolated any more and Stansfield isn’t relatively wasted, in fact looks somewhat rejuvenated. It’s taken too long to get to this point but I abhor the tone of a lot of those comments. Some by people who say appear when we go a goal down (undeservedly) against Saints.

There’s a lot around that time [www.smallheathalliance.com] it went on across
Multiple threads of excuses why Roberts couldn’t play whereby this fictional injury appeared to become facts.

In relation to to your last paragraph, I actually think when we went down against Southampton most were quite positive, I would be considered a moaner and many others like me actually
Thought we could get back into it which we did. I think if you go through the match thread, there was some criticism of the finishing which is Somewhat warranted but for the most part it seemed to me upbeat about how we was playing

[www.smallheathalliance.com]

Comments like "ineffectual, he was poor, nothing to suggest he gets in over Vicente, not the messiah, unhappy and disinterested, etc, etc

There’s one comment - the first post - that says that. Just about everyone else says he’s a good player who needs time on the pitch. Others then start to speculate that he’s on his way because he’s been maltreated by the manager. That seemed speculative then and was really criticism of the manager (for potentially getting rid of him - CD gets a lot of criticism for things that probably don’t didn’t and won’t happen).

Didn’t read any further. Most of our fans rate Roberts. He’s actually pretty consistent for a winger. It’s a fair comment oom his game, don’t you think, that he’s not as energetic overall as Vicente and less effective defensively. Not surprising for a player who creates so much up the pitch.
‘Comically negative’ - Colin Robinson