Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

The Fly replying to newblue
22:36, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Think you are underestimating the sheer quality that Croatia could bring. Once they cranked up their midfield in the second half our boys were hanging on for penalties.
They had Champions League pedigree players everywhere:
Modric (Real Madrid).
Rakitic (Barcelona).
Mandzukic (Bayern Munich/Juventus).
Perisic (Inter Milan).
Strinic (AC Milan).
Lovren (Liverpool)
Vrsaljko (Atletico Madrid)
Brozovic (Inter Milan).

A bit of perspective please folks.....
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Rasputin replying to The Fly
22:37, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
So did England.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Le Mod replying to The Fly
22:39, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
So did we.

And we were 1-0 up, dominating the game against a team that couldn’t beat Russia or Denmark in normal time.

Proceeded to go into our shell and lost 2-1.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Hoppy replying to Rasputin
22:39, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
We just didn't take our chances first half, second half Croatia were the better side
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

The Fly replying to Le Mod
22:42, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Le Mod
Can’t be arsed with the whole proud as punch stuff at the mo.

Just got knocked out against a decent team, but not a great one. Perhaps 3 of their players would get in our 11?

Attacked them in the first half and they looked poor, should have scored 3. Showed them up for what they were.

Then we essentially handed the ball at the restart and said “that’s yours, you’ve got 45 mins to score”

And they did.

Then we sat back some more, then went 2-1 down and launched it.

Gutted, once in a generation opportunity.
"Three of their players would get in our 11"
See my post above and have a word with yourself...
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

brummiestu87 replying to Le Mod
22:43, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Don't agree with this at all. Our experience is new at the top level, those Croatia players are seasoned pros.
I remember playing football younger, I'd run around all day long, pointless at times and burn myself out. I'm 31 now and realise you don't need to do that at all - point is it's the experience we lacked tonight and the quality in the final 3rd.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Rasputin replying to Ribeye
22:44, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
So good that yet again, he didn't look remotely like scoring or creating a goal.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

newblue replying to Le Mod
22:46, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
It’s an interesting question. When we wer3 taking the game to th3 opposition there was only one team in it. I think if you had to say how does a team control the game, and how do they push th3 opposition off, look at Franc3 last night. But we scored early. If we had fagotes another on3 I reckon we might have won that quite easily.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

cowinbovril replying to Hoppy
22:48, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Ah well; onwards and upwards; no one died and weve had a great ride over the past few weeks.

Well done England and really well done Croatia. 4 million population- that is an incredible achievement.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Scoobers replying to Rasputin
22:48, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Unlike you Raspers to be so optimistic
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

IanT replying to newblue
22:50, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Clearly the better side won the game.

We had early chances but didn't take them.

Be philosophical. These kids are ace, and they can use this loss to get better.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Nose of Blue replying to Rasputin
22:51, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
At the very top end of any sport the lines between success and failure are extremely fine.

The pivotal moment was Kane not scoring twice in the space of a few seconds. Both chances you would expect him to score 99 times out of 100, he didn't.

England have been excellent throughout the tournament and were again for 45 minutes when we should have had it won. 2v0 and Croatia are done.

They have world class players and second half their experience came through against the youngest side in the tournament.

2020 and 2022 will be the ones where expectations will be much higher for me. I hoped for the quarters and dared to dream for the final once we made the semi's but it was just a step too far.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

zxcv replying to Le Mod
22:53, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Le Mod
Can’t be arsed with the whole proud as punch stuff at the mo.

Just got knocked out against a decent team, but not a great one. Perhaps 3 of their players would get in our 11?

Attacked them in the first half and they looked poor, should have scored 3. Showed them up for what they were.

Then we essentially handed the ball at the restart and said “that’s yours, you’ve got 45 mins to score”

And they did.

Then we sat back some more, then went 2-1 down and launched it.

Gutted, once in a generation opportunity.
I agree with this, and feel we needed a better mix of kids v experience, You simply can not have all kids there was not one leader out on the pitch let alone on the bench, the players had no one to look to when things started to go wrong, Tonight was a clear case of a lack of experience when they lost there way. But this will stand everyone in good stead including Gareth. Perhaps the 3 of there team you would put into our team is the same as i am saying to give it that wee bit of experience needed
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

newblue replying to Nose of Blue
22:54, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
I think they have a couple of world class players. They’re not that good. Tfair play though, 5hey found a way. We didn’t.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

The Fly replying to brummiestu87
22:55, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
brummiestu87
Don't agree with this at all. Our experience is new at the top level, those Croatia players are seasoned pros.
I remember playing football younger, I'd run around all day long, pointless at times and burn myself out. I'm 31 now and realise you don't need to do that at all - point is it's the experience we lacked tonight and the quality in the final 3rd.
This. There was vast experience throughout their team. It showed from the second half onwards.
The good thing about England is the relative youth of the team which will develop over the next few years.
Sorry folks , Greasy will step up to the national team after he joins Spurs....
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Partisan Blues Fan replying to Le Mod
22:58, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Le Mod
So did we.

And we were 1-0 up, dominating the game against a team that couldn’t beat Russia or Denmark in normal time.

Proceeded to go into our shell and lost 2-1.

Think you might have to give a bit of credit to Croatia they pressed further up the pitch swamping our 3 in midfield. We lack a ball playmaker in midfield(Where have we heard that before?) really. Also lack a bit of experience but as they are young they can only get better..
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

zxcv replying to newblue
22:59, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
newblue
I think they have a couple of world class players. They’re not that good. Tfair play though, 5hey found a way. We didn’t.
We gave them a way back in on a plate.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Scoobers replying to Partisan Blues Fan
22:59, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
I thought Croatia would tire,fair play to them
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

zxcv replying to The Fly
23:02, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
The Fly
brummiestu87
Don't agree with this at all. Our experience is new at the top level, those Croatia players are seasoned pros.
I remember playing football younger, I'd run around all day long, pointless at times and burn myself out. I'm 31 now and realise you don't need to do that at all - point is it's the experience we lacked tonight and the quality in the final 3rd.
This. There was vast experience throughout their team. It showed from the second half onwards.
The good thing about England is the relative youth of the team which will develop over the next few years.
Sorry folks , Greasy will step up to the national team after he joins Spurs....
This
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Le Mod replying to Partisan Blues Fan
23:03, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
They’re decent, wouldn’t deny that.

Still, we can go on about experience all day long, should have been 2-0 at half time. They aren’t that good. We won’t meet a weaker semi final opponent again.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Rasputin replying to Partisan Blues Fan
23:03, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Partisan Blues Fan
Le Mod
So did we.

And we were 1-0 up, dominating the game against a team that couldn’t beat Russia or Denmark in normal time.

Proceeded to go into our shell and lost 2-1.

Think you might have to give a bit of credit to Croatia they pressed further up the pitch swamping our 3 in midfield. We lack a ball playmaker in midfield(Where have we heard that before?) really. Also lack a bit of experience but as they are young they can only get better..

As much as Modric and Rakitic are a cut above, it's rather bad that we look to Henderson to be out equivalent. The forward four were massively disappointing for England tonight, for whatever reason.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Partisan Blues Fan replying to Scoobers
23:04, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Scoobers
I thought Croatia would tire,fair play to them


Think I heard somewhere that they are 1 of the fitest teams in the tourny and I think that it has showed in their last 3 games. I cant call the final as on paper France look too good but think the experience in the Croatia team is seeing them through and they could just do it.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Scoobers replying to Le Mod
23:04, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
They've over exceeded too then, just a bit more than us
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

zxcv replying to Scoobers
23:06, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Scoobers
I thought Croatia would tire,fair play to them
again down to experience, paced themselves perfectly and waited for us to run out of steam like our last game. but we can learn from this
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Southside Blue replying to Partisan Blues Fan
23:07, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
And if they smoother the ball in soap , the French won't go anywhere near it
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

mr_crosby replying to Le Mod
23:07, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
The whole of the Belgium team apart from 1 player plays in our premiership, that isn’t right. We need to get our young players the best platform here.
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

Partisan Blues Fan replying to Rasputin
23:09, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Rasputin
Partisan Blues Fan
Le Mod
So did we.

And we were 1-0 up, dominating the game against a team that couldn’t beat Russia or Denmark in normal time.

Proceeded to go into our shell and lost 2-1.

Think you might have to give a bit of credit to Croatia they pressed further up the pitch swamping our 3 in midfield. We lack a ball playmaker in midfield(Where have we heard that before?) really. Also lack a bit of experience but as they are young they can only get better..

As much as Modric and Rakitic are a cut above, it's rather bad that we look to Henderson to be out equivalent. The forward four were massively disappointing for England tonight, for whatever reason.

We do not have an equivalent though,if we did we would look lik scoring more from open play
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

The Hurricane replying to The Fly
23:10, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
The Fly
Think you are underestimating the sheer quality that Croatia could bring. Once they cranked up their midfield in the second half our boys were hanging on for penalties.
They had Champions League pedigree players everywhere:
Modric (Real Madrid).
Rakitic (Barcelona).
Mandzukic (Bayern Munich/Juventus).
Perisic (Inter Milan).
Strinic (AC Milan).
Lovren (Liverpool)
Vrsaljko (Atletico Madrid)
Brozovic (Inter Milan).

A bit of perspective please folks.....


Excellent point, they have some real quality who play for some top sides in Europe and they are arguably the fittest nation at this tournament, they were deserved winners although England were on top up until the half time whistle, then we sat back


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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

B13blues replying to The Fly
23:12, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
The Fly
Think you are underestimating the sheer quality that Croatia could bring. Once they cranked up their midfield in the second half our boys were hanging on for penalties.
They had Champions League pedigree players everywhere:
Modric (Real Madrid).
Rakitic (Barcelona).
Mandzukic (Bayern Munich/Juventus).
Perisic (Inter Milan).
Strinic (AC Milan).
Lovren (Liverpool)
Vrsaljko (Atletico Madrid)
Brozovic (Inter Milan).

A bit of perspective please folks.....
Not bad for a country of 4 million peeps
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Re: England vs Croatia Match Thread

The Hurricane replying to Saga Noren
23:13, Wednesday 11 Jul 2018
Saga Noren


Youngest team in the tournament so I feel more optimistic for the future.

2nd youngest ….Nigeria had the youngest squad


Commentator also said England average age of their usual side was the same as the French strongest XI....dismisses the myth that Giroud is actually 49
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