20:37, Tue 24 Mar
well i'm in the same boat of you, its all very confusing. Its a socialist utopia (from a Covservative govnt) Give me the money.
20:40, Tue 24 Mar
Rags

They should make them paid jobs ... there are an awful lot of people with ZERO income at the moment who won't be getting any 80% malarkey ..

... sorry, we get £72.00 a week JSA from whenever we can register

I gather they’re looking at doing 80% of last 3 years accounts figures for the self employed ?

If... they get that sorted, is that of much use to yourself ?

Nope ... i survived last 2 years on £73.00/week ESA (topped up by whatever i made laying greyhounds on Betfair) whilst off sick (genuinely completely unable to leave the house to work) and switched to JSA last month.

Had a good job lined up to start last week ... job now cancelled (although i will have the job when all this is over) and of course, greyhound racing has been cancelled.

Income from greyhounds is "non-declarable" and "non-taxable" ... because like all forms of gambling, if you make a loss you can't claim it back as a business loss.

I AM registered as self-employed with HMRC ... but haven't earned tuppence through my company since i got sick 2 years ago
20:43, Tue 24 Mar
well i'm in the same boat of you, its all very confusing. Its a socialist utopia (from a Covservative govnt) Give me the money.


It's just sod's luck that whilst everyone else has been healthy i been proper poorly ... and now i've got myself well everyone else is getting sick


Never had good timing.
20:52, Tue 24 Mar
Rags
Rags

They should make them paid jobs ... there are an awful lot of people with ZERO income at the moment who won't be getting any 80% malarkey ..

... sorry, we get £72.00 a week JSA from whenever we can register

I gather they’re looking at doing 80% of last 3 years accounts figures for the self employed ?

If... they get that sorted, is that of much use to yourself ?

Nope ... i survived last 2 years on £73.00/week ESA (topped up by whatever i made laying greyhounds on Betfair) whilst off sick (genuinely completely unable to leave the house to work) and switched to JSA last month.

Had a good job lined up to start last week ... job now cancelled (although i will have the job when all this is over) and of course, greyhound racing has been cancelled.

Income from greyhounds is "non-declarable" and "non-taxable" ... because like all forms of gambling, if you make a loss you can't claim it back as a business loss.

I AM registered as self-employed with HMRC ... but haven't earned tuppence through my company since i got sick 2 years ago

Feckin hell.

Out of interest, based on the £73 a week you’ve been getting, plus the gambling profits/losses, what kind of figure are you hoping for from the state ?
20:56, Tue 24 Mar
:)

get poorly soon, so we can all get well
20:57, Tue 24 Mar
Rags
Rags

They should make them paid jobs ... there are an awful lot of people with ZERO income at the moment who won't be getting any 80% malarkey ..

... sorry, we get £72.00 a week JSA from whenever we can register

I gather they’re looking at doing 80% of last 3 years accounts figures for the self employed ?

If... they get that sorted, is that of much use to yourself ?

Nope ... i survived last 2 years on £73.00/week ESA (topped up by whatever i made laying greyhounds on Betfair) whilst off sick (genuinely completely unable to leave the house to work) and switched to JSA last month.

Had a good job lined up to start last week ... job now cancelled (although i will have the job when all this is over) and of course, greyhound racing has been cancelled.

Income from greyhounds is "non-declarable" and "non-taxable" ... because like all forms of gambling, if you make a loss you can't claim it back as a business loss.

I AM registered as self-employed with HMRC ... but haven't earned tuppence through my company since i got sick 2 years ago

Feckin hell 😁

Out of interest, based on the £73 a week you’ve been getting, plus the gambling profits, what kind of figure are you hoping for from the state ?

Well, by my reckoning, over the years i've paid over £225,000 in NI ... which entitled me to £72.00 a week ... cool eh ?

I don't want their money, i want to work ... minimum wage would do ... if nothing crops up by Sunday i'll be washing people's bits and arses for £310 a week - but i'd rather be doing something/anything else

I'll live ... i still have (dwindling) savings and i have no mortgage to pay ... but my argument (as ever) is on behalf of others who aren't as lucky as i am
21:00, Tue 24 Mar
Rags
Rags

They should make them paid jobs ... there are an awful lot of people with ZERO income at the moment who won't be getting any 80% malarkey ..

... sorry, we get £72.00 a week JSA from whenever we can register

I gather they’re looking at doing 80% of last 3 years accounts figures for the self employed ?

If... they get that sorted, is that of much use to yourself ?

Nope ... i survived last 2 years on £73.00/week ESA (topped up by whatever i made laying greyhounds on Betfair) whilst off sick (genuinely completely unable to leave the house to work) and switched to JSA last month.

Had a good job lined up to start last week ... job now cancelled (although i will have the job when all this is over) and of course, greyhound racing has been cancelled.

Income from greyhounds is "non-declarable" and "non-taxable" ... because like all forms of gambling, if you make a loss you can't claim it back as a business loss.

I AM registered as self-employed with HMRC ... but haven't earned tuppence through my company since i got sick 2 years ago

Feckin hell 😁

Out of interest, based on the £73 a week you’ve been getting, plus the gambling profits, what kind of figure are you hoping for from the state ?

Well, by my reckoning, over the years i've paid over £225,000 in NI ... which entitled me to £72.00 a week ... cool eh ?

I don't want their money, i want to work ... minimum wage would do ... if nothing crops up by Sunday i'll be washing people's bits and arses for £310 a week - but i'd rather be doing something/anything else

I'll live ... i still have (dwindling) savings and i have no mortgage to pay ... but my argument (as ever) is on behalf of others who aren't as lucky as i am




I will also admit that part of this is my complete frustration that, after working so hard over the last two years to get back on my feet, when i do it and am now itching to work again, i can't
21:01, Tue 24 Mar
Bloody hell... that’s some NI contributions.

When one of the civil servants said earlier that paying the self employed was going to be complicated, I was thinking “How hard can it be ?”

If your circumstances are the general rule of thumb, I wouldn’t have a clue where they’d start.
21:04, Tue 24 Mar
Bloody hell... that’s some NI contributions.

When one of the civil servants said earlier that paying the self employed was going to be complicated, I was thinking “How hard can it be”

If your circumstances are the general rule of thumb, I wouldn’t have a clue where they’d start.

i'm an old fecker and i've earned well over the years and been lucky enough to be able to support and help a lot of people over that time
21:06, Tue 24 Mar

Ta mate .. .i'll go over tomorrow morning
21:12, Tue 24 Mar

Ta mate .. .i'll go over tomorrow morning

Although i'm also waiting to hear from Amazon tomorrow too ... working nights (which suits me) in their warehouse here.

I'm probably going to get a lot of flack for this ... but when you take your working documents in for these jobs (passport, proof of NI number, P45, driving licence, current utility bill etc) , from when you last worked on PAYE, my P45 shows me earning £80,000 a year (including taxable work benefits) and i'm applying for an £8.00/hour job and they look at me as if i'm barmy - and some of the jobs i've applied for want people permanently and they just know that i ain't looking to stay there long

but as i keep saying .. my circumstances are exceptional and i'm just glad i'm well enough to work again (been a long journey) BUT there are an awful lot of people out there for whom £310.00 a week is the norm - they're not finding work now and that sort of figure doesn't allow them to build up any sort of savings or reserve fund etc - and they have rents/mortgages to pay, which i don't
21:46, Tue 24 Mar
Bloody hell... that’s some NI contributions.

When one of the civil servants said earlier that paying the self employed was going to be complicated, I was thinking “How hard can it be ?”

If your circumstances are the general rule of thumb, I wouldn’t have a clue where they’d start.


Sorry, that figure of £225,000 is what's been paid by myself on PAYE, what i've paid on contracts when working under an umbrella company (where you pay NI employee AND NI employer contributions), both NI employee and NI employer payments when self-employed, and the employer NI when PAYE .. i should have clarified that
10:43, Wed 25 Mar
1/4 million signed up in the first day, which is a decent effort.
10:49, Wed 25 Mar
Carry on signing people up I say.

It's time for us to come together.
There's too much opinion and not enough fact.