montypenguin
He can't win though can he - because if he sticks to one system (and we start to lose games) he'll be accused of inflexibility.

He's limited by the players he has at his disposal, which was not his fault at Charlton nor is it at Blues. That's down to years of poor recruitment. We lack pace and athleticism, and it shows when we play a teams like Coventry. The irony is Coventry have one of the smallest budgets in the division, but it shows it can be done.

Agree with you 100% on Roberts throws, it's getting embarrassing now.

Not a fan of 1 up front though, especially at home. I personally think Deeney and Hogan actually do offer a threat playing up front together.

All fair points.

Especially recruitment.

Managers can only do so much with the "talent" at their disposal.
23:10, Sat 27 Nov
I did chuckle when the Sky reporter said that we looked dangerous from Roberts’ long throws.
23:39, Sat 27 Nov
Closest we came in the first half was from one
00:01, Sun 28 Nov
I still believe we should be setting up in a 433.

If all of our players were fit



Sarkic
Colin Sanderson Roberts Pedersen
Woods
Sunjic McGree
Chong Deeney Bela


To play this we would obviously have to sort out the RW as both Chong and Sanchez are out injured.
00:01, Sun 28 Nov
Get down that wing Wigley
Before I start I am not for one minute suggesting LB isn't doing a decent job....however I think he has some limitations and they are starting to affect us.

Firstly he doesn't really seem to have a set philosophy / formation. Over his career he's varied between 3 at the back and 4 with a diamond. It's a personal thing but I like a boss who says "right, this is how I set up, this is how we play" - that seems to be what the best coaches do. Now we've played half a season with 3 at the back he's on about changing it to 4 and a diamond despite us having no CMs. On top of that using 442 in pre-season was ridiculous - surely you bed in whatever system you're gonna use. In short he doesn't know how best to set up and that's not good.

Secondly he too frequently lets our 3 at the back become a 5 with 3 CBs marking 1 CF and our wing backs marking the opposition wide forwards. This invites the opposition FBs to overload us which in turn pulls our CMs wide and deep creating further holes for opposition to exploit in the middle. See all 90 mins at Cov and first half today. In fairness he addressed it at half time and I know Bela and Graham aren't specialist WBs but it has to stop happening, it puts us on the back foot and partly explains why when we do get it back we give it away again - everyone is too deep and nowhere near the front 2.

Thirdly he is married to 2 up front which very few teams use these days. We are poor enough in transition as it is and having 2 players leading the line makes it even harder to retain possession and too easy to lump it long.

Fourth and final. Mark Roberts' long throws. Has to stop now.

Now I fully get that there are valid counterpoints to all the above (except number 4) - the main one being that with our hugely limited squad he's doing pretty well.

I just think we could be a lot better if he addressed some of these things.

A good post and some good points. However, regards how coaches set up. It’s easy for the likes of Guardiola and Klopp to stick to one formation when they have the players they do to make it work. When you don’t then you have to be more flexible. Look at what happened when Karanka tried to make a formation stick without the right players. I think we need to get less hung up on the formation. Bowyer is doing pretty good with the Iimited resources he has, which you acknowledge of course.
00:15, Sun 28 Nov
Bluestaines
Get down that wing Wigley
Before I start I am not for one minute suggesting LB isn't doing a decent job....however I think he has some limitations and they are starting to affect us.

Firstly he doesn't really seem to have a set philosophy / formation. Over his career he's varied between 3 at the back and 4 with a diamond. It's a personal thing but I like a boss who says "right, this is how I set up, this is how we play" - that seems to be what the best coaches do. Now we've played half a season with 3 at the back he's on about changing it to 4 and a diamond despite us having no CMs. On top of that using 442 in pre-season was ridiculous - surely you bed in whatever system you're gonna use. In short he doesn't know how best to set up and that's not good.

Secondly he too frequently lets our 3 at the back become a 5 with 3 CBs marking 1 CF and our wing backs marking the opposition wide forwards. This invites the opposition FBs to overload us which in turn pulls our CMs wide and deep creating further holes for opposition to exploit in the middle. See all 90 mins at Cov and first half today. In fairness he addressed it at half time and I know Bela and Graham aren't specialist WBs but it has to stop happening, it puts us on the back foot and partly explains why when we do get it back we give it away again - everyone is too deep and nowhere near the front 2.

Thirdly he is married to 2 up front which very few teams use these days. We are poor enough in transition as it is and having 2 players leading the line makes it even harder to retain possession and too easy to lump it long.

Fourth and final. Mark Roberts' long throws. Has to stop now.

Now I fully get that there are valid counterpoints to all the above (except number 4) - the main one being that with our hugely limited squad he's doing pretty well.

I just think we could be a lot better if he addressed some of these things.

A good post and some good points. However, regards how coaches set up. It’s easy for the likes of Guardiola and Klopp to stick to one formation when they have the players they do to make it work. When you don’t then you have to be more flexible. Look at what happened when Karanka tried to make a formation stick without the right players. I think we need to get less hung up on the formation. Bowyer is doing pretty good with the Iimited resources he has, which you acknowledge of course.

Completely fair points. I agree formation decision is a relatively small part of all the things that make a team successful....but

IMO it's fairly obvious that 3-4-3 suits our current squad best. Partly cos we can't defend if we go to a back 4, partly cos we've got decent 10s and strikers and finally cos it matches most teams up. LB obviously felt so strongly it was the way to go, he's had a right footed winger to play LWB for half a season and in all fairness it's worked.

Not sure what's changed to make him think there's a better way 🤷
00:29, Sun 28 Nov
U-Credit
We looked much better when Bowyer switched to the diamond. The end if 3-5-2 going forward?

Not a chance imo.
Just need players back from injury/ new signings and LB will be straight back to it. With good reason.
Agree that the long throws should only be used when we’re nearer the goal but we did hit the bar from one yesterday, And loads of teams play two up front, even three in a 433.
08:36, Sun 28 Nov
I'm not convinced about Bowyers tactics ethier. I must admit Blackpool looked like a well drilled outfit. Looked like they were trying to catch us on the counter.
Obviously the long throws are a big part of what we do. If we're winning game is doesn't matter.
Mgree's going to be a big miss for us. He looks really composed.
08:47, Sun 28 Nov
Mannenberg
Agree that the long throws should only be used when we’re nearer the goal but we did hit the bar from one yesterday, And loads of teams play two up front, even three in a 433.

433 isn't 2 up front! That's my point!

Also, yes, we created a chance yesterday from a long throw (the keeper saved it as it happens) but it's monkeys and typewriters isn't it? That must be litterally our 500th attempt and it's the first time I can think of where it's lead to a chance.
09:10, Sun 28 Nov
I won the Championship in my first season on FM22 with 99 points playing 442. Scoring the most goals in the league.

I did get a quality partner in for Troy and a technically proficient athlete to play next to Sunjic. So don’t think that helps…

Roberts and Sanderson were terrific as a 2 mind.
09:17, Sun 28 Nov
Thrillhouse
I won the Championship in my first season on FM22 with 99 points playing 442. Scoring the most goals in the league.

I did get a quality partner in for Troy and a technically proficient athlete to play next to Sunjic. So don’t think that helps…

Roberts and Sanderson were terrific as a 2 mind.

That's interesting.
11:49, Sun 28 Nov
The goal showed good forward play. First time reverse pass inside the full back. Early cross into the centre of the penalty area, away from the keeper. Well timed onside runs from the two strikers, one near post/one far, supported by three midfielders arriving, all within the width of the six yard box. That’s good tactics and/or good coaching. Credit to Bowyer.
11:53, Sun 28 Nov
An old argument on here, I know, but when we get the ball out wide/to the by-line and get early crosses in suddenly we look dangerous. We really ought to try and do it more often.
11:55, Sun 28 Nov
Agree 100%.

Conversely, the fact it was entirely absent in the first half (WBs barely crossed the halfway line after the first 10 mins) was unbelievable poor tactics and coaching and could very easily have cost us the game.