Do you think, on the football side of things, that England would be more successful if the players showed a greater degree of patriotism ?
RagsDo you think, on the football side of things, that England would be more successful if the players showed a greater degree of patriotism ?
You had a pint of wind up juice today? Two threads purely for a reaction 🤷♂️👏
To be more specific ... should the WHITE players be more patriotic ?
Only 3.5% of the population of the UK identify as being black ... yet 8 out of 26 of the England Squad ... 30.7% ... are black.
The black players have already shown they are more patriotic by choosing to be part of the squad - so why aren't the white players as patriotic ?
when i play golf i wear a titleist cap but play with cleveland clubs.
Who else would the black players play for given that they're English?
Who else would the black players play for given that they're English?
This is my point .. and the same applies for the white players .... BUT the white players need to show more patriotism
I wasn't, by the way, saying that the black players had "chosen" to represent England as opposed to representing a different nation ... just pointing out that they are the 30.7% of ones who have chosen to be part of the England squad
Absolutely. Quit with the rainbow laces, concentrate on the breath of 55 million countrymen, yearning for warm beer, the thwack of leather on willow and Donald McGill
So are you saying that the black players are more patriotic because they're starting from a position of being less English than their white mates?
Rags is about 5-0 down at this point.
Still 7 hours of the day to go, could get to Bournemouth levels.
So are you saying that the black players are more patriotic because they're starting from a position of being less English than their white mates?
No, not at all ...
I'm saying that because 3.5% of the UK population identify as black, but the squad is 30.7% black then it shows a lack of patriotism on the part of white players generally who obviously haven't striven as hard, or been as patriotic, to bother to get into the squad
You have to take yer hats off to Declan and jack for giving up the shirts off there back to get in the squad 😄
There's a problem with the your analysis.
How do you know how that 30% of the squad identify as black?
More patriotically motivated white players in the squad would simply replace the patriotic black lads. So the patriotism factor would be nullified.
There's a problem with the your analysis.
How do you know how that 30% of the squad identify as black?
More patriotically motivated white players in the squad would simply replace the patriotic black lads. So the patriotism factor would be nullified.
Well i could probably start googling interviews with each player and posting examples of things the player said which shows that those players clearly identify as being black .. but I have better things to do.
Surely you aren't, at this point, going to follow Ian's previous claim that Mark Chapman is black or identifies as black ?
You're the one counting the ethnic make up of the squad. Are you one of those types who notes down the ethnicity of advert actors and newsreaders too?