i did see some twitter moans from Man City fans about their New York OSC getting tickets to champs league games not long back, there is disgruntlement at some level everywhere, its not restricted to us
My Blue HeavenHollo will be running the “part of the 8k” osc of which there’ll be 15k members
As one of the actual 8000 - in fact, there were some 4000 gates around that time, that stuff does genuinely make me laugh.
These 10-12000 other people who were apparently there must have been wearing invisibility cloaks, cause you couldn't see them.
It's never changed.
Wembley 91 there were about 57000 people who deserved a ticket because they had never missed a game...
And going back even before my remembrance - apparently we took 65000 fans to Orient in 1972.
Bob Latchford told me that story once - how's that for a bit of name dropping? - he said "some estimates say we took 20000 fans to Orient that night, over the years I must have met 65000 of 'em"...
😂
Looking at attendances across football in the 80s, it looked like most of the clubs suffered from awful crowds
Was it due to the state of the country itself
Or a protest at the vile pretty much getting a bye to the European cup
I don’t understand what the fuss is about! I have Gold status this season but, because of allocation sizes and my lack of willing to go to some away games - there’s no way I’m going to Huddersfield or Bolton midweek, for example - it’s unlikely I’ll be Gold next season.
The fans that are willing to attend such games will be Gold/Platinum/Platinum Plus and, therefore, get the chance to buy away tickets before I do. And so they should.
Too many fans are moaning when they have no right to do so!
Apart from completely missing the point and completely wrong, bang on ! 😉
That’s not the point though mate
It’s more people padding their status by buying tickets for games they can’t go to
It's one of the things that does make me laugh about the 80s superfans merchants. The fans were so good back then that no effer bothered going to support the club.
You could counter that with the supporters who have been going 5 minutes who think they are special. Fecking virgins 😄
I think the new fans aren't really new though, they are just old fans who think it's worth coming back because it feels like fun again. I'm looking at me here!
To be fair I haven't really seen that. The Hollo/80s OSC thing did make me laugh though.
I'd say that the youngsters who started watching us post 2011 are proper Blues given they've seen a decade+ of absolute shite.
The young lad who sits near me had his first season ticket the year Clark took over. How effing grim is that.
On a serious note, football was on it's arse in the eighties.
I'm no sociological / societal expert but it was probably a combination of - yeah, the economic situation - but also the violence which put a lot of people off. Everything just seemed so grim. Unemployment, riots, whatever else. Being at school I had it easy in that sense, I wasn't worrying about having a job and feeding a family and stuff.
When I say that as a football fan you might as well have admitted to being a paedo...I wouldn't be exaggerating much.
A lot of the violence stuff was a bit overblown I always thought, but it became accepted wisdom that football fans were scum and would kill you and take your scalps as souvenirs.
Even though I was only a teenager, I can't ever remember being really scared and thinking "i'm actually effed here..."
I suppose it's just what you get used to, younger kids and older people might have found it far more frightening I'm sure. To me it was just a part of the excitement of going to the match. I was just at "that age" I suppose.
When people look at the Leeds riot and stuff now, they are shocked - I was in that crowd, and others similar - the West Ham one Thongsy mentioned the other day, Chelsea in 1980. There were a couple of right dust ups against West Ham - a massive one by Garrison Lane Park after the 2-2 draw when Kevin Dillon equalised in the last minute.
So yeah, I think the fear of violence was a lot to do with it, I'm not glorifying it - just saying at my stage of life then...it never worried me.
Made in DaeguI don’t understand what the fuss is about! I have Gold status this season but, because of allocation sizes and my lack of willing to go to some away games - there’s no way I’m going to Huddersfield or Bolton midweek, for example - it’s unlikely I’ll be Gold next season.
The fans that are willing to attend such games will be Gold/Platinum/Platinum Plus and, therefore, get the chance to buy away tickets before I do. And so they should.
Too many fans are moaning when they have no right to do so!
Actually I think you will be gold next season.
The club are keeping the status over two seasons as there are plenty of fans who will struggle to get tickets this season.
They are making it very complicated though by also bringing in the BSM trophy games for this season.
So next season everyone keeps the status they had for this season - assuming they remain season ticket holders
But there will also be potential awards for this season - based on a minimum of 29 rather than 25 games.
I'm not sure how it will work. I assume you keep your status unless you are lucky enough to have moved up a level in which case you get the new status.
It all seems a lot of work for something that will hardly affect anyone as they would be plat or gold members anyway.
And the BSM games will presumably drop out (if we get promoted). I suppose if you go to all the BSM games you can and to Wigan and Bolton etc a STH could get to silver this season.
Greebo joeApart from completely missing the point and completely wrong, bang on ! 😉
Oh I understand the theme of this thread- my point is that people should stop moaning.
And if people can, in their own mind, justify buying tickets just to add to their away game total, well, so be it.
In fact, what’s just as bad is people buying a ticket, attending the game and then standing in the concourse for most of the game …I saw this at Charlton in October!
😄👍 followed em since 67, apart from a few years it’s all been fecking grim.
JohnPI think the new fans aren't really new though, they are just old fans who think it's worth coming back because it feels like fun again. I'm looking at me here!
The fickle ones you mean