bluearmyfactionIf they’re all upheld they should be forced into Sunday Leagues or Goals leaguesHackneyBlue-1,150 points for Man City then.im sure they will be, these charges would have been way easier to work through than City's 115, although the time taken on that to even charge them is a disgrace
SquatnoseAbsolutely thisThere wouldn't be as many complaints if this had been Luton or Bournemouth. But because it's mighty Everton it's going to cause a massive fight.
It reminds me of Swindon being denied the promotion they gained in 1990 and around the same time Spurs were hit with a 12 point deduction and were denied entry to the FA Cup. Swindon accepted their fate whilst Tottenham successfully fought off every sanction and ended up with a slap on the wrist.
El MayorWho was it on here who told me Everton would get away with it and they’d never be deducted points?
Me. I'll eat my hat.
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they tried to exclude the loss they made on 'player x'
its very good that the full verdicts get published
There must be more in the offing. Villa's net spend has been amongst the highest in Europe over the last 4-5 seasons. Chelsea & Man City obviously as well.
But Everton moaning that they shouldn't lose points because others are worse is a straw man argument. They cheated FFP by the sounds of it and it is just a real pity that Luton, Sheffield U & Burnley will be lucky to scrape 40+ points between them
El MayorNouCampEl MayorWho was it on here who told me Everton would get away with it and they’d never be deducted points?
I said I;d be surprised if it was the full 12 mooted and no more than 3 with the rest suspended
I'm surprised
I think this is partly the last throw of the dice from the PL to prove they don't need a regulator. This is why I expected a harsh punishment.
Don’t disagree with your observations at all, other than to say I don’t think it’s that harsh a punishment actually, given how they’ve obliterated the rules and aren’t holding their hands up to it.
GBBlueThere must be more in the offing. Villa's net spend has been amongst the highest in Europe over the last 4-5 seasons. Chelsea & Man City obviously as well.
But Everton moaning that they shouldn't lose points because others are worse is a straw man argument. They cheated FFP by the sounds of it and it is just a real pity that Luton, Sheffield U & Burnley will be lucky to scrape 40+ points between them
There AVFC breach was in the Championship seasons. I think they lost £95 in the last season alone - which even with the PL extra loss available maxed out their losses. There were losses in the two previous seasons as well.
The other two clubs who goat away with massive losses were Leeds and W*lv*s.
Blimey O'Reilly! 🫣 This will be interesting.
HackneyBlueinterestingly the commission didnt agree with the punishment the Prem wanted, which i think was the same with us
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I've just read through it, the way I have read it is the Premier league wanted to adopt similar to what the efl done (they even reference blues v efl in there), whereby its a sliding scale of points depending on the losses, but the commission say the current rules don't have this in them so the commissions punishment can be whatever they see fit.
Although given the level of the breach, the sliding scale would've still been 10 points so in effect, they got the punishment they wanted as such.
Super HansThey will still stay up at a relative canter this season anyway, the bottom of the PL is shite.
Doubt it will be applied this season given they're appealing. If I were them, I'd take it this season. As you say, there won't be an easier one to stay up.
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I could be wrong but i thought our independent commission set the sliding scale themselves and then used us as the precedent moving forward
My guess is that it will be suspended on appeal.
The deduction levels were already set. We lost 7 points for the breaches less 1 point for good behaviour after we were charged plus 3 points for an aggravated breach making 9 in total.
We were a test case in being the first club done for breaching FFP/P&S, but the EFL had previously set the punishments.
coventrybluenoseMy guess is that it will be suspended on appeal.
If they lose the appeal, they need to take Lampard back for a year as a penalty for wasting the PL's time.