I don’t doubt we’ve got targets, and I’m trusting the recruitment process. But I don’t think it’d be great selling him now when we’ve got no centre backs, especially for what is an important pre season.
We need a minimum of 2 centre backs already, possibly 3 if Davies wants to play 3 at the back, and that’s before binning Sanderson as well.
If we’d stayed up then I’d be saying get rid by all means, but he’s decent enough for league 1.
TresorLuntala😂 unlikely mateHope he isn’t driving himself there.
Mickbcfcmjd2505El MayorHoldsworth_MaraSonnerThis is all well and good but we already need at least another 8 players. Can’t let more leave without lots coming in, especially at Cebtre half and in midfield.
There was a rumour of a swap deal involving Goldson, but I have zero idea of veracity on that one
I was actually going to comment "maybe a swap deal for Goldson" but I thought it was too unrealistic.
If we did manage that and probably pay Rangers a fee on top of it, I think that'd be a fantastic bit of business from us.
Pay rangers a fee on top off it! I’m so glad you’re not in charge off our transfer budget. Let’s swap a 24 year old cb who’s got experience playing in league 1 for a 31 year old cb but also give you money on top
Only reason dion should be leaving us is for more then we paid for him and bid is too big to turn down.
We have 1 centre back on the books and the season starts in 4 weeks time with pre season games due to get under way Saturday, planning huge changes to playing style we need to keep as many as we can especially ones who are half decent on the ball too
Just to clarify, I don't mean a big fee, and I only added that part in due to the rumours that he might be off to Saudi, meaning we might have to add a fee to make that deal happen.
Obviously, I don't want to pay big money for an older CB, and if that were the rumour then I'd be against it. But I don't think there's much doubt in my mind Goldson would be an upgrade on Sanderson.
Dion's in a bit of a weird place. We still don't know the extent of his drink driving, whether it was a case of he had a couple the night before and drove when still over the limit the next day or whether he got hammered and tried to drive home (I think there's a clear difference between the two). If it was the former, I've no issues in keeping him around and I'd be much less in favour of this deal. If it was the latter, it was so unprofessional especially given the circumstances we were in at the time and the fact he was club captain. I've not seen anybody else sniffing around Sanderson that gives me hope we might just be able to offload him. I don't particularly want someone that unprofessional playing for us this season, even though I will support him every time he pulls on our shirt.
I don't want to start a pile on to Sanderson, he's still a bloke who made a mistake. But if we have an opportunity to offload him and bring in a better centre back in the same deal, why wouldn't we explore it? Sanderson's not a kid, he's 24. He's not going to improve massively and I think he's limited.
Yet that still doesn't mean I'd let Rangers write whatever figures they want and sign it off. Obviously has to be a sensible deal. Player side too.
A swap deal for a 31 year old is short sighted even by SHA standards.
Forget the off-field issues, for me it is the quality of his on field performances that have been of concern since he first came on loan.
Poor decision making and reading of the game that initially I was prepared to accept due to his relatively shortage of experience.
However, despite now being 24 and having played many games there has been no appreciable improvement.
And to those who suggest that he would be OK in League 1 I would remind them of the stated aim of building a team for the Championship.
Dirty BertieForget the off-field issues, for me it is the quality of his on field performances that have been of concern since he first came on loan.
Poor decision making and reading of the game that initially I was prepared to accept due to his relatively shortage of experience.
However, despite now being 24 and having played many games there has been no appreciable improvement.
And to those who suggest that he would be OK in League 1 I would remind them of the stated aim of building a team for the Championship.
Unless they are in the process of replacing him though, he'd be perfectly fine to start the season with. We are chronically short, let's not throw the bab out with the bathwater until we can do so comfortably.
BluSabreI wouldn't be swapping a 24 year old for a 31 year old.
Agreed
Dirty BertieAnd to those who suggest that he would be OK in League 1 I would remind them of the stated aim of building a team for the Championship.
Got to get back to the championship before we start building to get out of it at the right end this time.
He's contracted to us, he's the right sort of age, and with a decent manager will almost certainly be good enough for L1
RasputinDirty BertieAnd to those who suggest that he would be OK in League 1 I would remind them of the stated aim of building a team for the Championship.
Got to get back to the championship before we start building to get out of it at the right end this time.
He's contracted to us, he's the right sort of age, and with a decent manager will almost certainly be good enough for L1
With the right kind of manager he showed he was perfectly good enough for the Championship, never mind League 1.
Those proposing a swap for Goldson are mad.
RasputinDirty BertieAnd to those who suggest that he would be OK in League 1 I would remind them of the stated aim of building a team for the Championship.
Got to get back to the championship before we start building to get out of it at the right end this time.
He's contracted to us, he's the right sort of age, and with a decent manager will almost certainly be good enough for L1
Sorry but I have seen nothing to suggest that he would be good enough for a team hoping to challenge for promotion from L1.
Nikola Zigic- FEAA swap deal for a 31 year old is short sighted even by SHA standards.
I get that view, but for me you're swapping a player who isn't going to get much better at 24 with a better player who's experienced at a much higher level, and doesn't have the baggage of the younger player.
Doing this deal and then completing deals for another 2-3 younger, more upcoming centre backs for me gives you a good balance. Again, depending on the terms of that deal. Sanderson would be decent at CB for this level, Bielik and Goldson together would be a monster partnership. Just my opinion.
We can't just sign for the future, and I don't think the club think that way either by signing Allsop and May. We've got to get out of this league first.
Anyway. It's a tenuous link at best at the minute so odds are nothing will come of it, and we'll go sign some unknown 25 year old from the Netherlands that's going to smash it.
Sanderson has to go. Not because of the drink driving as we all do that but because of his fake foot injury under Rooney and his general can’t be arsed attitude.
mjd2505Eff that. If there was a swap deal it should be rangers paying us a fee on top. Tbh I’d rather keep Sanderson he’s only 24 and think he could redeem himself.El MayorHoldsworth_MaraSonnerThis is all well and good but we already need at least another 8 players. Can’t let more leave without lots coming in, especially at Cebtre half and in midfield.
There was a rumour of a swap deal involving Goldson, but I have zero idea of veracity on that one
I was actually going to comment "maybe a swap deal for Goldson" but I thought it was too unrealistic.
If we did manage that and probably pay Rangers a fee on top of it, I think that'd be a fantastic bit of business from us.