Experience my friend
Ah reasons
I think they needed to do something and the tiny matchday inconvenience of having to tell someone your name to be handed an envelope outside an away end is worth it to put a stop to however many people were taking the piss
Maybe we should revert to storming gates to get in for free. The halcyon days
Rab C NesbittIt’s not the first season people have had to collect at the away ground due to issues. And coaches get caught in traffic, trains get delayed etc
The coaches getting stuck in traffic is a point, the coaches have all the tickets on. What if the coaches get stuck in traffic that they miss kick off. Should every other effer be stood outside the ground waiting for no reason?
Life would be a lot better if this attitude was prevalent in every day life. Rather than when a perennially shit football club start winning games regularly 😁
Sishi RunakRab C NesbittIt’s not the first season people have had to collect at the away ground due to issues. And coaches get caught in traffic, trains get delayed etc
The coaches getting stuck in traffic is a point, the coaches have all the tickets on. What if the coaches get stuck in traffic that they miss kick off. Should every other effer be stood outside the ground waiting for no reason?
Wouldn't the tickets travel with the team in this instance?
Sheep2I have to collect on the day. It's not an issue.
It would be good if theclub provided some actual figures.
I suspect a lot of the returns are exactly that. People who have found they can't go after buying tickets. A 3-4 hour trip each way starting early on a Sunday isn't the most convenient, especially as the game is free on tv.
Surely you do your homework on travel options before you buy a ticket?
In the past you might just think eff it, it’s to much of hassle to get down there I’ll just take the hit on the £20 or so match ticket and leave it.
Now the club are seeing that it’s a issue with the demand so are doing something about it.
Rab C NesbittLife would be a lot better if this attitude was prevalent in every day life. Rather than when a perennially shit football club start winning games regularly 😁
But again you’re turning it around to suit your pov.
Our away crowds have averaged around the 2600 for the last 2/3 years..
Yes you can point at certain games that have never sold well for some reason. Middlesbrough never does, Cardiff midweek, Sheff we’d struggles to sell out.
The fact is that this season due to the low capacity of away grounds there is probably 600-900 Gold & Bronze members who have little or no chance of attending the same number of aways that they might have done in previous seasons because the passing on/selling of tickets by those higher up the privileges
Nothing to do with winning a few games. People who deserve a chance of a ticket are missing out because the system is being played. Everybody knows it but some just dont like it or play it down.
CharcySishi RunakRab C NesbittIt’s not the first season people have had to collect at the away ground due to issues. And coaches get caught in traffic, trains get delayed etc
The coaches getting stuck in traffic is a point, the coaches have all the tickets on. What if the coaches get stuck in traffic that they miss kick off. Should every other effer be stood outside the ground waiting for no reason?
Wouldn't the tickets travel with the team in this instance?
They travel with the stewards who run the coaches.
Do you think Chris Davies is going to let Jay Stansfield sit outside an away end half an hour before the game doling out tickets?
Greebo joeNothing to do with winning a few games. People who deserve a chance of a ticket are missing out because the system is being played. Everybody knows it but some just dont like it or play it down.
You could equally say that a lot of people play it up.
It happens, nobody has ever disputed that.
It just doesn't happen as much as a lot of people would like to suggest, and Platinum Plus people are the least likely to do it - because when you talk about us having 2600 away followings - those same people have been part of that following. And followings a damned sight more sparse than those.
The perception that Platinum / Plat Plus members in significant numbers are only pretending to go to matches, are selfishly guarding their status and will return the tickets as soon as challenged, is frankly ludicrous and just isn't happening. Resale tickets come from a variety of sources, I'm not sure why some people are so desperate to blame the most loyal (in terms of following the team round the country over a great length of time) of supporters? The massive majority of Plat and especially Plat Plus supporters wouldn't dream of giving up their tickets and would be mortified at the suggestion.
The club is responding to complaints they have received based on that incorrect perception.
H's suggestion early in this thread that droves of Plat Plus members have returned their tickets when challenged, based on what somebody from an OSC has told him - is daft as well. Because last season OSCs were given tickets for no good reason, people moaned about that - and it was stopped this season because the club identified it as an issue and unfair in light of lower allocations.
Then you get people throwing around loads of daft numbers based on nothing, trying to show that Plat Plus members don't actually exist, they are just ticketing bots.
It's all just so silly.
A lot of it is fuelled by jealousy imo. Jealousy makes people believe things that aren’t necessarily true.
Spike makes a good point about the OSC leaders/members fuelling this, through bitterness that away tickets that they thought they would be (undeservedly) getting their hands on were subsequently denied from them (quite bloody rightly).
The club should never have said that OSCs would get away tickets in the first place.
El MayorA lot of it is fuelled by jealousy imo. Jealousy makes people believe things that aren’t necessarily true.
Yep, and it also makes them lash out at the wrong people.
All the threads I have seen over the last few weeks, and discussion around away allocations and whether there are fairer ways to do it based on longer qualifying periods, points systems...whatever - in reality won't make a blind bit of difference at the highest qualifying level - it will still be the same people.
I like to think I'm very fair minded, none of it affects me personally, I do accept that there are people who would like to see away matches who can't get tickets. But I can't see what the fairer way is.
The suggestion that all previous qualification should be voided and all tickets should just be allocated by ballot, has got to be the daftest and most unfair of all.
And the reality is that a lot of people don't mind unfairness - as long as it suits them. There are people moaning now, who admit that they have had tickets they shouldn't have had in the past. They're just not getting them now for whatever reason. I don't see many people saying "Yeah, I get hooky tickets - but I don't think it's generally fair and it should be stopped for everybody but me, obviously, I still want mine..."
At least that would be more honest.
We really haven’t averaged 2600 for 2/3 years. It’s around 2k which is great but it’s not 2600