mjd2505Rab C Nesbittroger hyndExactly. We’re going to be facing teams who sit with 10 behind the ball most weeks. Rowett struggles to break such teams down. Rotherham a fantastic example.Ron SaundersNaturally most of us want TM to return, but assuming this isnt going to happen name someone you think would be a better bet than Rowett?
Any one of a hundred managers that play attractive,attacking football
Yet people want him to get the job. Ludicrous
I think it comes down to what do you think our biggest issue that we have to address going into next season is.
Is it that we're not good enough on the ball, and should therefore employ someone who can set up technical footballers to play an attacking style and blow lesser teams away?
Or is it that we've not got enough strong leaders and experience within the team nor a good culture to perform consistently, and should therefore employ someone who will address these issues and get the best out of what will be a very strong squad for League One level?
I'm not sure of the answer myself. I know it's possible that we can employ someone who can do both. But as I don't know what sort of managers we'll be attracting and what credentials any names have, we have to trust in Wagner, Cook and Gardner to get this one right. And given the Rooney appointment, people don't. I'm not sure I do either.
Mowbray I think would do both. It's a real shame from a footballing perspective that it's looking unlikely, and my best wishes go out to the man who is a lovely, lovely bloke.
I don't think Rowett is the best option. But I think he would be a solid, safe, stable option who wouldn't see us embarrassed in League One, and I think he'd rebuild the squad with a certain type of player that had we done this season, we probably would not have gone down even with all the upheaval. I don't think it's the way forward long term and I don't think it's the owner's dream. But I don't think it's the worst option that some seem to think either.
The alternative is we gamble on someone who doesn't know the squad and doesn't know it's weaknesses, we sign a team designed to attack, potentially a lot of young players in there. This could be a Will Still type, although that's purely off reputation, I've no idea how he plays and I'm sure that rumour is rubbish. But that kind of manager is what I have in mind for this scenario. Could work and we storm the league - could also end in us getting embarrassed in a competitive league with players who aren't up for the fight every week.
And that is my case for Rowett. I don't think that would happen under his leadership. Alright we might draw a few games we should probably win, maybe we finish in the playoffs. But as a manager who's going to need to oversee a big rebuild and a big culture change, I would want experience since we lack it in our technical director. And if we don't get promoted first season, we can make a change in the close season in a much, much more stable position.
I know the cases against Rowett, you don't need to tell me, he's not my ideal choice. But until someone comes along that we agree is a better option, he's my choice. Ultimately it's not down to us though, and I hope whoever it is, the leadership team get it right
The only remit is promotion. We will have the biggest budget, the biggest expectation and likely to be the team everyone wants to turn over.
We need a team full of character and steel coupled with quality, i think that is something Rowett could produce.
Had we not gone down then i think we could have took a gamble on someone like Will Still but now do not think that's a viable option.
Come next season we will have a ground pretty much redeveloped beyond recognition, hopefully a winning team on the pitch playing with the commitment we demand yet haven't always seen this season and yet the moaning minnies on here still aint happy.
Some Bournemouth twerps would’ve said that last year
There really isn't a better chance for a young exciting manager to take on what is probably, the best chance at repeating Ipswich's success of back to back promotions in European football.
Look at McKenna, his stock has risen that high he is being linked to Man Utd.
For somebody like Will Still, Mousinho or similar, it's a chance for them to be part of something truly special over the next 3-5 years with full backing from one of the most ambitious ownership groups in world football.
If TM does not continue, then I truly think we will have no end of applicants, some of which the general footballing fan would be quite shocked at.
Nikola Zigic- FEAI like the idea of Will Still but not convinced that anyone completely new to English football is a wise decision this summer.
Not sure I agree, seen lots of managers come in from abroad and do well recently - namely Cifuentes and Rohl have done absolutely exceptional jobs with QPR and Wednesday, and we all thought they were doomed. We were wrong.
We didn’t win a game under him
I don’t think they’d have mysteriously turned it on
Venus seems a lovely guy but doesn’t seem particularly the type to Marshall the troops and motivate
I think the better and more convincing argument is that rowett should’ve had come in sooner. At least there’s some sort of proof to suggest we’d have possibly got 4/5 points more from another 4 games
David XavisThere really isn't a better chance for a young exciting manager to take on what is probably, the best chance at repeating Ipswich's success of back to back promotions in European football.
Look at McKenna, his stock has risen that high he is being linked to Man Utd.
For somebody like Will Still, Mousinho or similar, it's a chance for them to be part of something truly special over the next 3-5 years with full backing from one of the most ambitious ownership groups in world football.
If TM does not continue, then I truly think we will have no end of applicants, some of which the general footballing fan would be quite shocked at.
I just can't see us getting mousinho or still. Still will go Sunderland and mousinho has just been promoted, with a team who took a gamble on him in the first place.
Why would you leave somewhere who gave you a fair chance to go back down a league, before the season even starts.
I think if Bolton don't go up we should try and nick there manager, or if I'm trying to think of someone you could reliably get you promoted twice it would be Steve Cooper. However that would need a lot of cash on the table I'd expect.
mjd2505Nikola Zigic- FEAI like the idea of Will Still but not convinced that anyone completely new to English football is a wise decision this summer.
Not sure I agree, seen lots of managers come in from abroad and do well recently - namely Cifuentes and Rohl have done absolutely exceptional jobs with QPR and Wednesday, and we all thought they were doomed. We were wrong.
I agree, I'd be more than happy for the club to look abroad if we do need a new manager. Will Still might not be the right choice but looking at managers from across Europe is the right approach - we went for a manager with experience of English football in Rooney and Wednesday went for one without in Rohl, they both transformed the sides but it was on Rohl who did it in the right way.
bcfsteDavid XavisThere really isn't a better chance for a young exciting manager to take on what is probably, the best chance at repeating Ipswich's success of back to back promotions in European football.
Look at McKenna, his stock has risen that high he is being linked to Man Utd.
For somebody like Will Still, Mousinho or similar, it's a chance for them to be part of something truly special over the next 3-5 years with full backing from one of the most ambitious ownership groups in world football.
If TM does not continue, then I truly think we will have no end of applicants, some of which the general footballing fan would be quite shocked at.
I just can't see us getting mousinho or still. Still will go Sunderland and mousinho has just been promoted, with a team who took a gamble on him in the first place.
Why would you leave somewhere who gave you a fair chance to go back down a league, before the season even starts.
I think if Bolton don't go up we should try and nick there manager.
Surely as a young ambitious manager you think 3-5 years in the future not just the next 12 months.
Pompey are going nowhere fast, their ground is a shed and their resources are limited.
BCFC have huge resources, massive city, massive stadium in the works. I'd take one season in League One if I backed myself knowing I have the backing to achieve back to back promotions, and if I do that, I'm being linked with the big six when jobs come up.
Snoopmjd2505Nikola Zigic- FEAI like the idea of Will Still but not convinced that anyone completely new to English football is a wise decision this summer.
Not sure I agree, seen lots of managers come in from abroad and do well recently - namely Cifuentes and Rohl have done absolutely exceptional jobs with QPR and Wednesday, and we all thought they were doomed. We were wrong.
I agree, I'd be more than happy for the club to look abroad if we do need a new manager. Will Still might not be the right choice but looking at managers from across Europe is the right approach - we went for a manager with experience of English football in Rooney and Wednesday went for one without in Rohl, they both transformed the sides but it was on Rohl who did it in the right way.
Yeah, Will Still is just an example. I'm pretty sure he goes Sunderland. He's high profile enough to get a decent championship job.
I don't mind us going abroad for someone, or just going for someone we don't know. I only back Rowett as he's the option I personally feel most comfortable with right now. Someone chucks a realistic (looking at you, Robins and Moyes namers) name out there that's better then I'm probably going to get behind it.
I’d still take Nigel Clough over Rowett all day long.
mjd2505Nikola Zigic- FEAI like the idea of Will Still but not convinced that anyone completely new to English football is a wise decision this summer.
Not sure I agree, seen lots of managers come in from abroad and do well recently - namely Cifuentes and Rohl have done absolutely exceptional jobs with QPR and Wednesday, and we all thought they were doomed. We were wrong.
I'd agree in the Championship, this is such a fiddly little shitty league I can see some nice expansive guy from the Spanish 1st division being completely shell shocked by it all.
If we're speculating on a currently non existing vacancy , get Danny Rohl in if Uncle Tony isn't well enough to return.n Hardly emphatic about his long term at Sheff Weds under Chansiri . We are a perfect profile club for a young up and coming clever bastard.
Completely agree. Would also be hilarious.
I'd have taken Corberan in the summer if we'd stayed up.
Really not sure Corberan is a realistic shout. They're currently in the playoffs and could get promoted still, albeit unlikely.
I'd very much like Danny Rohl though. I do think that's a realistic shout, and he's performed miracles with Wednesday this year.
Haha no not now, Christ I'm not mental. If we'd stayed up we could have taken him.
I'm seeing a lot of people saying we need clarity on TM this week, I really don't think we do.
Realistically what's even going to happen for two weeks? Very little. Everyone is on holiday.
I think we need clarity on TM by the end of the month and a new manager in for the first day of pre season if the very worst happens and he's not coming back.
Really hope he is though.